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Just so people know, the two dominating app stores are under scrutiny because of the monopoly they have on the market: https://www.wsj.com/articles/app-store-c

Just so people know, the two dominating app stores are under scrutiny because of the monopoly they have on the market: https://www.wsj.com/articles/app-store-competition-targeted-by-bipartisan-senate-bill-11628704834 https://www.wsj.com/articles/app-store-competition-targeted-... https://edition.cnn.com/2021/08/11/tech/apple-google-app-stores-senate-bill/index.html https://edition.cnn.com/2021/08/11/tech/apple-google-app-sto... https://www.theverge.com/2021/8/11/22620454/apple-google-app-store-senate-play-bill-epic-games-fortnite https://www.theverge.com/2021/8/11/22620454/apple-google-app...

xtracto 5y ago
As they are, app stores are crap. They are a huge control mechanism to stiff competition. For those of you who are old enough: Imagine if in 2000, Microsoft released "Windows Me" with something similar (for PC) to what Apple or Google are doing in the current dominant computing device form factor (Mobile). It just would not have been tolerated. Adobe, Netscape, Autodesk, Corel and others having to pay Microsoft a 15% cut for their software? Netscape? Opera? Apple having to pay 15% of the revenue from Apple Itunes? That's crazy...
- Dove 5y ago
  I'm old enough to remember that in 2001, Microsoft got in trouble just for shipping Windows with IE preinstalled. Which seems like an awfully quaint concern by 2021 standards. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Microsoft_Corp https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Microsoft_C....
- ribosometronome 5y ago
  A Microsoft operating system was on 97% of all computing devices in the year 2000, even higher if you narrow the definition to something like "home computer".
  - tomnipotent 5y ago
    Microsoft didn't a collect a tax on every dollar made from every business distributing on Windows.
    - xtracto 5y ago
      Well... they did have the "Windows Tax" ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundling_of_Microsoft_Windows https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundling_of_Microsoft_Windows ).
  - gunapologist99 5y ago
    Microsoft didn't block or remove apps from the internet.
ribosometronome 5y ago
How can two app stores have a _mono_poly?
- josephcsible 5y ago
  Compare the situation to ISPs. There's Comcast, Cox, Charter, etc., but a given location is often only served by one of them, so they don't actually compete with each other. Similarly, nobody has a choice between those two app stores. iOS users can't use the Google Play Store, and Android users can't use the Apple App Store.
  - ribosometronome 5y ago
    But Android and iOS do compete with each other. And, unlike ISPs, I can switch between the two without moving.
- ranger207 5y ago
  They have a monopoly in their markets, which is "on their OS". The exact definition of their markets, in particular if it's "on their OS" or "on phones in general", is one of the major points of contention in the case

xtracto 5y ago

As they are, app stores are crap. They are a huge control mechanism to stiff competition. For those of you who are old enough: Imagine if in 2000, Microsoft released "Windows Me" with something similar (for PC) to what Apple or Google are doing in the current dominant computing device form factor (Mobile). It just would not have been tolerated. Adobe, Netscape, Autodesk, Corel and others having to pay Microsoft a 15% cut for their software? Netscape? Opera? Apple having to pay 15% of the revenue from Apple Itunes? That's crazy...

Dove 5y ago
I'm old enough to remember that in 2001, Microsoft got in trouble just for shipping Windows with IE preinstalled. Which seems like an awfully quaint concern by 2021 standards. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Microsoft_Corp https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Microsoft_C....
ribosometronome 5y ago
A Microsoft operating system was on 97% of all computing devices in the year 2000, even higher if you narrow the definition to something like "home computer".
- tomnipotent 5y ago
  Microsoft didn't a collect a tax on every dollar made from every business distributing on Windows.
  - xtracto 5y ago
    Well... they did have the "Windows Tax" ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundling_of_Microsoft_Windows https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundling_of_Microsoft_Windows ).
- gunapologist99 5y ago
  Microsoft didn't block or remove apps from the internet.

ribosometronome 5y ago

How can two app stores have a _mono_poly?

josephcsible 5y ago
Compare the situation to ISPs. There's Comcast, Cox, Charter, etc., but a given location is often only served by one of them, so they don't actually compete with each other. Similarly, nobody has a choice between those two app stores. iOS users can't use the Google Play Store, and Android users can't use the Apple App Store.
- ribosometronome 5y ago
  But Android and iOS do compete with each other. And, unlike ISPs, I can switch between the two without moving.
ranger207 5y ago
They have a monopoly in their markets, which is "on their OS". The exact definition of their markets, in particular if it's "on their OS" or "on phones in general", is one of the major points of contention in the case