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I'm surprised this straw-man still exists. If there are any people that "believe global warming does not exist", it's an edge minority. All skeptics are clear t
by frankfrankfrank 5y ago
I'm surprised this straw-man still exists. If there are any people that "believe global warming does not exist", it's an edge minority. All skeptics are clear that they believe global warming is happening.
The far bigger issue in addressing the global warming matter is actually people who seem incapable of having a rational and logical discussion and debate about things, and instead simply demand imposed obedience and blind trust in people who repeatedly and constantly on many different topics keep proving themselves untrustworthy and even malicious in intent. It is in fact also why we will end up in global conflict over not just this topic, but all other topics that will also be on the line when the dam breaks.
It is unfortunate that people, which you may or may not belong to, are so ideologically and fervently obsessed that they aren't actually talking about "global warming" at all, and what underpins their base assumptions are not only a deep rooted compulsion to hate their own, but also are driven by a need to dominate and subjugate others. It is akin to a psychological state in a turned/toxic relationship, where a deep and irrational resentment based on real or even just perceived slights and insults boils over into ever increasing hostility and often even also blind need to dominate or "win" even if it means self-harm and spiteful self-destruction. It is essentially a manic episode on a societal and civilizational level that we are going through, not just regarding "global warming" but on many different topics like gays, trans, immigration, freedom vs authoritarianism, etc.
They are all issues that are like in a toxic and unhealthy relationship where resentments have built up so badly (regardless of origin or legitimacy) that, no, e.g., she blows up over tiny things as a proxy for whatever the far bigger issue is.
- anyfoo 5y agoClimate change does not care about ideology, psychology, or any of the issues you listed. It's a problem that affects literally everyone, and it needs solving.
- panzagl 5y agoRight. But the solutions can't impact the environment, or the developing world, or the disadvantaged. It's pretty obvious that the US, UK, and Commonwealth countries are going to be expected to disrupt their lives and economies while the rest of the world dithers and screams that not enough is being done.
- anyfoo 5y agoWho are you arguing with? Because I'm pretty sure climate change cannot hear your complaints or arguments. It's just going to do what it does, destroying your world and that of your children, while you argue about... commonwealth, I don't know.
- panzagl 5y agoIf climate change is a manmade problem than you cannot ignore politics, psychology, etc. in the solution. Otherwise 'nuke China' is more of a solution than 'tax carbon' is.
- UnFleshedOne 5y agoProblem is that a lot of activists and politicians don't want to solve it -- they instead spend time replacing nuclear with coal, tacking on unrelated social issues and so on. All of those are about power, and correlate with taking the problem seriously and solving anything only by accident if at all. In other words -- climate change is not the game they are playing to win.
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