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This always gets brought up and it's a distraction from the real coal power plants that contribute to double digit CO2 emissions. Some guy blowing up smoke in

This always gets brought up and it's a distraction from the real coal power plants that contribute to double digit CO2 emissions. Some guy blowing up smoke in the truck might make you raged but it's misplaced. Can we get raged at the coal powered power plants?

myko 5y ago
The problem is it is difficult to solve the issue with the coal powered plants when huge segments of the population are fine with "rolling coal" and think it's good to dump on EVs and green policy in general.
- systemvoltage 5y ago
  So the answer is to get raged at Rolling coal and that’ll change their minds?
  - myko 5y ago
    I did not intend to suggest that. My point is that without changing folks opinions greater change is not possible - and a large number of people do not think climate change is something important to combat. Getting mad at coal plants won't help either, it will just give that segment of the population something to rally behind (coal power).
UnpossibleJim 5y ago
https://www.ecori.org/climate-change/2019/10/4/global-warming-has-a-co2ncrete-problem#:~:text=Concrete%20currently%20accounts%20for%20about,9%20percent%20of%20carbon%20emissions https://www.ecori.org/climate-change/2019/10/4/global-warmin.... There are more than just power plants to worry about... Concrete is 8% of our CO^2 emissions, agriculture is 9%. There are these things that no one thinks about that need to be addressed as well that sneak under the radar. There are teams working on them that don't get the glitz and glamour (or funding) that will make an impact, if adopted. EDIT: I'm not downplaying transportation pollution... just a quick edit to make it clear.
- only_as_i_fall 5y ago
  I think awareness about the negative environmental effects of agriculture and specifically cattle and other animals used for meat is at least much more prevelant than it used to be. The concrete thing probably still flies under the radar though.

myko 5y ago

The problem is it is difficult to solve the issue with the coal powered plants when huge segments of the population are fine with "rolling coal" and think it's good to dump on EVs and green policy in general.

systemvoltage 5y ago
So the answer is to get raged at Rolling coal and that’ll change their minds?
- myko 5y ago
  I did not intend to suggest that. My point is that without changing folks opinions greater change is not possible - and a large number of people do not think climate change is something important to combat. Getting mad at coal plants won't help either, it will just give that segment of the population something to rally behind (coal power).

UnpossibleJim 5y ago

https://www.ecori.org/climate-change/2019/10/4/global-warming-has-a-co2ncrete-problem#:~:text=Concrete%20currently%20accounts%20for%20about,9%20percent%20of%20carbon%20emissions https://www.ecori.org/climate-change/2019/10/4/global-warmin.... There are more than just power plants to worry about... Concrete is 8% of our CO^2 emissions, agriculture is 9%. There are these things that no one thinks about that need to be addressed as well that sneak under the radar. There are teams working on them that don't get the glitz and glamour (or funding) that will make an impact, if adopted. EDIT: I'm not downplaying transportation pollution... just a quick edit to make it clear.

only_as_i_fall 5y ago
I think awareness about the negative environmental effects of agriculture and specifically cattle and other animals used for meat is at least much more prevelant than it used to be. The concrete thing probably still flies under the radar though.