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>yeah if you’re on the non-pedophile side You're assuming there's a non-pedophile side?

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nate_meurer 5y ago
Yes, that's the Taliban. From https://foreignpolicy.com/2013/10/28/bacha-bazi-an-afghan-tragedy https://foreignpolicy.com/2013/10/28/bacha-bazi-an-afghan-tr...: "The Taliban had a deep aversion towards bacha bazi, outlawing the practice when they instituted strict nationwide sharia law. According to some accounts, including the hallmark Times of London article “Kandahar Comes out of the Closet” in 2002, one of the original provocations for the Taliban’s rise to power in the early 1990s was their outrage over pedophilia. Once they came to power, bacha bazi became taboo, and the men who still engaged in the practice did so in secret."
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- notathrowaway3 5y ago
  No, it's not the Taliban. From https://www.reuters.com/article/us-afghanistan-rights-women-idUSKCN1B31PL https://www.reuters.com/article/us-afghanistan-rights-women-... "Fatima’s Taliban husband was so controlling that he refused to allow her to bathe and threatened to burn her face if she dared wear make up, suspicious that his 12-year-old Afghan wife was trying to make herself attractive to other men." “He became my lawful husband and began to rape me and beat me every single day for not consenting (to sex),” The Taliban being a pedophile network is well known.
  - nate_meurer 5y ago
    If I may reply to the first version of your comment, I agree with you that the Taliban are guilty of similarly revolting treatment of girls and women. I sympathize with the comment at the top of the thread that the Taliban are "utterly backwards, terrible people". So maybe I should say only that the Taliban are the "non-bacha-bazi" side.
    - notathrowaway3 5y ago
      >So maybe I should say only that the Taliban are the "non-bacha-bazi" side. Which is meaningless. Both sides are sexually abusing children. They are just as morally repugnant.
- spaced-out 5y ago
  If the Taliban is so opposed to pedophilia, why are there so many reported stories of girls as young as 12 being forced to "marry" men more than twice their age?
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  - notathrowaway5 5y ago
    @dang Is there a reason why all the comments pointing out the FACT that the Taliban also partakes in pedophilia are getting [flagged]? This is extremely suspicious. The comment I'm replying to is going to be flagged within minutes, as is this one.
    - dang 5y ago
      Maybe because you're posting them all, with several different accounts, and abusively deleting your comments and reposting them? Could you please stop creating accounts to break HN's guidelines with? We're trying for a different sort of site here.
      - notathrowaway6 5y ago
        I was deleting and reposting because they were getting insta-flagged. The comments weren't breaking site guidelines and we're relevant to the discussion. This is reddit level narrative shaping... I had no clue that kind of abusive flagging would make it's way to HN. I will make a permanent account at your request. Thank you.
        dang 5y ago
        The comments were certainly breaking the site guidelines! Would you mind reviewing them? https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html We're trying to avoid flamewar here, and generally the use of the site for political and ideological battle, because it destroys the spirit of curiosity the forum is supposed to exist for.
notathrowaway4 5y ago
Leftists hate the US/West so much there are literally Taliban apologists here [flagging] any comments that go against the narrative. You're assumption is correct: there is no non-pedophile side. From https://www.reuters.com/article/us-afghanistan-rights-women-idUSKCN1B31PL https://www.reuters.com/article/us-afghanistan-rights-women-... "Fatima’s Taliban husband was so controlling that he refused to allow her to bathe and threatened to burn her face if she dared wear make up, suspicious that his 12-year-old Afghan wife was trying to make herself attractive to other men." “He became my lawful husband and began to rape me and beat me every single day for not consenting (to sex),” The Taliban being a pedophile network is well known.

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Yes, that's the Taliban. From https://foreignpolicy.com/2013/10/28/bacha-bazi-an-afghan-tragedy https://foreignpolicy.com/2013/10/28/bacha-bazi-an-afghan-tr...: "The Taliban had a deep aversion towards bacha bazi, outlawing the practice when they instituted strict nationwide sharia law. According to some accounts, including the hallmark Times of London article “Kandahar Comes out of the Closet” in 2002, one of the original provocations for the Taliban’s rise to power in the early 1990s was their outrage over pedophilia. Once they came to power, bacha bazi became taboo, and the men who still engaged in the practice did so in secret."

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notathrowaway3 5y ago
No, it's not the Taliban. From https://www.reuters.com/article/us-afghanistan-rights-women-idUSKCN1B31PL https://www.reuters.com/article/us-afghanistan-rights-women-... "Fatima’s Taliban husband was so controlling that he refused to allow her to bathe and threatened to burn her face if she dared wear make up, suspicious that his 12-year-old Afghan wife was trying to make herself attractive to other men." “He became my lawful husband and began to rape me and beat me every single day for not consenting (to sex),” The Taliban being a pedophile network is well known.
- nate_meurer 5y ago
  If I may reply to the first version of your comment, I agree with you that the Taliban are guilty of similarly revolting treatment of girls and women. I sympathize with the comment at the top of the thread that the Taliban are "utterly backwards, terrible people". So maybe I should say only that the Taliban are the "non-bacha-bazi" side.
  - notathrowaway3 5y ago
    >So maybe I should say only that the Taliban are the "non-bacha-bazi" side. Which is meaningless. Both sides are sexually abusing children. They are just as morally repugnant.
spaced-out 5y ago
If the Taliban is so opposed to pedophilia, why are there so many reported stories of girls as young as 12 being forced to "marry" men more than twice their age?
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- notathrowaway5 5y ago
  @dang Is there a reason why all the comments pointing out the FACT that the Taliban also partakes in pedophilia are getting [flagged]? This is extremely suspicious. The comment I'm replying to is going to be flagged within minutes, as is this one.
  - dang 5y ago
    Maybe because you're posting them all, with several different accounts, and abusively deleting your comments and reposting them? Could you please stop creating accounts to break HN's guidelines with? We're trying for a different sort of site here.
    - notathrowaway6 5y ago
      I was deleting and reposting because they were getting insta-flagged. The comments weren't breaking site guidelines and we're relevant to the discussion. This is reddit level narrative shaping... I had no clue that kind of abusive flagging would make it's way to HN. I will make a permanent account at your request. Thank you.
      - dang 5y ago
        The comments were certainly breaking the site guidelines! Would you mind reviewing them? https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html We're trying to avoid flamewar here, and generally the use of the site for political and ideological battle, because it destroys the spirit of curiosity the forum is supposed to exist for.

notathrowaway4 5y ago

Leftists hate the US/West so much there are literally Taliban apologists here [flagging] any comments that go against the narrative. You're assumption is correct: there is no non-pedophile side. From https://www.reuters.com/article/us-afghanistan-rights-women-idUSKCN1B31PL https://www.reuters.com/article/us-afghanistan-rights-women-... "Fatima’s Taliban husband was so controlling that he refused to allow her to bathe and threatened to burn her face if she dared wear make up, suspicious that his 12-year-old Afghan wife was trying to make herself attractive to other men." “He became my lawful husband and began to rape me and beat me every single day for not consenting (to sex),” The Taliban being a pedophile network is well known.