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> I see Snopes as pure, unadulterated bias Could you please elaborate? I have never seen them described like this.

TylerE 5y ago
I see it all the time... on the sorts of subreddits all the RWNJs hang out on.
dukeofdoom 5y ago
Here's an example Snopes article questioning the authenticity of the photos on Hunter's Biden Laptop. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/fox-hunter-biden-porn/ https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/fox-hunter-biden-porn/ They have not updated the fact check. Here's a story with a video in which Hunter Biden himself claims Russian drug dealers stole another one of his laptops for blackmail. And 'The Russians have videos of me doing crazy f**ing sex! Source with the Video: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9881213/Unearthed-video-shows-naked-Hunter-Biden-claiming-Russian-drug-dealers-stole-laptop.html https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9881213/Unearthed-v...
- qkqk 5y ago
  Huh, the article where they say "Trump did not explicitly tell people to 'storm' or 'breach' or 'break into' the Capitol" and instead “peacefully and patriotically” march does't fit the mold of "pure, unadulterated bias." https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-tell-supporters-storm/ https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-tell-supporters-stor... I'm so confused!
  - Wolfenstein98k 5y ago
    Engage with the given example, which proves the claim.
    - smnrchrds 5y ago
      If a source makes questionable claims to the left or right, it is biased. If it makes questionable claims to the left and right, it is not biased, it just lacks quality.
      - alentist 5y ago
        There's nothing questionable about the statement you quoted.
  - alentist 5y ago
    That statement is correct. Why are you confused? https://www.npr.org/2021/02/10/966396848/read-trumps-jan-6-speech-a-key-part-of-impeachment-trial https://www.npr.org/2021/02/10/966396848/read-trumps-jan-6-s...
  - kbutler 5y ago
    Snopes rated that claim "Mixed" Compare: It was a subjective call on whether ____'s use of phrases "you have to show strength" and "demand that ____ do the right thing" were meant to condone violence and crimes among ____ extremists without explicitly encouraging it. With: ___ said they should “stay in the street,” “fight for justice,” and “get more confrontational.” But there was more context to ___ remarks, and ___ didn’t call for violence, nor did ___ words incite violence. --- The first is from the article on Trump you cited (rated "Mixed"). Second quote is from an article about comments by Maxine Waters on George Floyd protests & LA riots (of which she explicitly said, "I call it a rebellion") https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/maxine-waters-comments/ https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/maxine-waters-comments/ (rated "False") The pattern seems to be: If there's a way a favored speaker can be taken positively, that will be explained. If there's a way a non-favored speaker can be taken badly, it will be called out.
alentist 5y ago
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/blm-terrorist-rosenberg/ https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/blm-terrorist-rosenberg/ Rating: Mixture What's True Susan Rosenberg has served as vice chair of the board of directors for Thousand Currents, an organization that provides fundraising and fiscal sponsorship for the Black Lives Matter Global Movement. She was an active member of revolutionary left-wing movements whose illegal activities included bombing U.S. government buildings and committing armed robberies. What's Undetermined In the absence of a single, universally-agreed definition of "terrorism," it is a matter of subjective determination as to whether the actions for which Rosenberg was convicted and imprisoned — possession of weapons and hundreds of pounds of explosives — should be described as acts of "domestic terrorism." https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/biden-forgot-defense-secretary/ https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/biden-forgot-defense-secre... Rating: Mixture What's True A video shows Biden fumbling his words and apparently blanking on Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin's name at one point in the speech, although he had mentioned Austin's name a few minutes earlier without issue. What's Undetermined It's unclear whether Biden literally "forgot" his defense secretary's name at that moment, or whether, for example, he got stuck doing an extended "folksy" ad lib after initially tripping over his words.
antifa 5y ago
I see it stated all the time, but whenever I ask why, instead of a substantial argument, I get downvotes or "isn't it obvious?" or some thinly veiled "how dare they debunk something I wanted to be true.". The plagiarism accusation is interesting and should be resolved, but isn't evidence of misinformation or evidence that they are less reliable than [no known alternative] suggested by critics.

I see it all the time... on the sorts of subreddits all the RWNJs hang out on.

Here's an example Snopes article questioning the authenticity of the photos on Hunter's Biden Laptop. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/fox-hunter-biden-porn/ https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/fox-hunter-biden-porn/ They have not updated the fact check. Here's a story with a video in which Hunter Biden himself claims Russian drug dealers stole another one of his laptops for blackmail. And 'The Russians have videos of me doing crazy f**ing sex! Source with the Video: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9881213/Unearthed-video-shows-naked-Hunter-Biden-claiming-Russian-drug-dealers-stole-laptop.html https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9881213/Unearthed-v...

qkqk 5y ago
Huh, the article where they say "Trump did not explicitly tell people to 'storm' or 'breach' or 'break into' the Capitol" and instead “peacefully and patriotically” march does't fit the mold of "pure, unadulterated bias." https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-tell-supporters-storm/ https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-tell-supporters-stor... I'm so confused!
- Wolfenstein98k 5y ago
  Engage with the given example, which proves the claim.
  - smnrchrds 5y ago
    If a source makes questionable claims to the left or right, it is biased. If it makes questionable claims to the left and right, it is not biased, it just lacks quality.
    - alentist 5y ago
      There's nothing questionable about the statement you quoted.
- alentist 5y ago
  That statement is correct. Why are you confused? https://www.npr.org/2021/02/10/966396848/read-trumps-jan-6-speech-a-key-part-of-impeachment-trial https://www.npr.org/2021/02/10/966396848/read-trumps-jan-6-s...
- kbutler 5y ago
  Snopes rated that claim "Mixed" Compare: It was a subjective call on whether ____'s use of phrases "you have to show strength" and "demand that ____ do the right thing" were meant to condone violence and crimes among ____ extremists without explicitly encouraging it. With: ___ said they should “stay in the street,” “fight for justice,” and “get more confrontational.” But there was more context to ___ remarks, and ___ didn’t call for violence, nor did ___ words incite violence. --- The first is from the article on Trump you cited (rated "Mixed"). Second quote is from an article about comments by Maxine Waters on George Floyd protests & LA riots (of which she explicitly said, "I call it a rebellion") https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/maxine-waters-comments/ https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/maxine-waters-comments/ (rated "False") The pattern seems to be: If there's a way a favored speaker can be taken positively, that will be explained. If there's a way a non-favored speaker can be taken badly, it will be called out.

alentist 5y ago

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/blm-terrorist-rosenberg/ https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/blm-terrorist-rosenberg/ Rating: Mixture What's True Susan Rosenberg has served as vice chair of the board of directors for Thousand Currents, an organization that provides fundraising and fiscal sponsorship for the Black Lives Matter Global Movement. She was an active member of revolutionary left-wing movements whose illegal activities included bombing U.S. government buildings and committing armed robberies. What's Undetermined In the absence of a single, universally-agreed definition of "terrorism," it is a matter of subjective determination as to whether the actions for which Rosenberg was convicted and imprisoned — possession of weapons and hundreds of pounds of explosives — should be described as acts of "domestic terrorism." https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/biden-forgot-defense-secretary/ https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/biden-forgot-defense-secre... Rating: Mixture What's True A video shows Biden fumbling his words and apparently blanking on Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin's name at one point in the speech, although he had mentioned Austin's name a few minutes earlier without issue. What's Undetermined It's unclear whether Biden literally "forgot" his defense secretary's name at that moment, or whether, for example, he got stuck doing an extended "folksy" ad lib after initially tripping over his words.

antifa 5y ago

I see it stated all the time, but whenever I ask why, instead of a substantial argument, I get downvotes or "isn't it obvious?" or some thinly veiled "how dare they debunk something I wanted to be true.". The plagiarism accusation is interesting and should be resolved, but isn't evidence of misinformation or evidence that they are less reliable than [no known alternative] suggested by critics.