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We’ve got one vaccine that’s been blacklisted due to high prevalence of blood clots. We’ve got another made by a company that’s been embroiled in a 4-decade lo

We’ve got one vaccine that’s been blacklisted due to high prevalence of blood clots. We’ve got another made by a company that’s been embroiled in a 4-decade long controversy over asbestos in baby talcum powder that only recently issued a recall, denying it all the way and claiming it’s safe. I assure you, Zuck isn’t needed for any negativity here. These companies are awful and they’re not to be trusted. Period.

verdverm 5y ago
They got a liability waiver for the vaccines, no need to be concerned
- stalkersyndrome 5y ago
  Oh it gets better - the populace is turning on you if you weren’t as gullible as them in taking an experimental vaccine. How dare you think you’re above us, they snark. But it’s all gravy, it hasn’t even been a year and the same extortionist racket that plagues the country’s lack of affordable healthcare has already pocketed $22B from this. Booster shots? Already turning it into a subscription model. Keep the downvotes coming lads we are in it for the long-covid haul.
- selectodude 5y ago
  Literally every vaccine in the United States comes with a liability waiver. Since 1986, you've had to sue the US Federal Government. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Childhood_Vaccine_Injury_Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Childhood_Vaccine_Inj...
  - verdverm 5y ago
    I think you are missing some facts here. COVID vaccines are not on the list of eligible vaccines for that program. You also can't sue the relevant govt departments for the COVID vaccine. This article does a nice job of going into the nuances https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/16/covid-vaccine-side-effects-compensation-lawsuit.html https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/16/covid-vaccine-side-effects-c... Also, a better link than a wikipedia article: https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/ensuringsafety/history/index.html https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/ensuringsafety/history/ind...
    - selectodude 5y ago
      I'm confused which facts you think that I'm missing.
arcticbull 5y ago
> We’ve got one vaccine that’s been blacklisted due to high prevalence of blood clots. The risk of getting a blood clot from the J&J vaccine is 400,000:1. This is less likely than dying of COVID in any age category. 0.00025%. The risk of dying in a car accident in America is 0.01% every year. So you're 40X more likely to die in a car accident this year alone than get a serious blood clot from the J&J vaccine. The risk of being injured in a car accident in America is 1.15% every year. So you're 6000X more likely to be injured in a car accident this year than get a serious blood clot from the J&J vaccine. Nothing in life is risk-free. This is pretty close though.
- stalkersyndrome 5y ago
  Yeah you’re putting your faith in a company whose talcum powder has been causing cancer for decades and saying “it doesn’t kill you it’s not that bad” It’s an experimental vaccine that hasn’t even been out for a year mate. Use some better judgement. “Oh but it prevents covid” - yeah and that powder helped with the rash too I’m sure.
  - arcticbull 5y ago
    > Yeah you’re putting your faith in a company whose talcum powder has been causing cancer for decades and saying “it doesn’t kill you it’s not that bad” No, I'm putting my faith in the CDC and VAERS, and an incredibly twitchy public willing to report absolutely anything and everything, in no small part because folks like you freak them out. > It’s an experimental vaccine that hasn’t even been out for a year mate. Use some better judgement. Yeah, it's been administered billions of times. Most "experimental" vaccines are given to around 1000 people total. This is like aspartame now - one of the most studied vaccines on earth. > “Oh but it prevents covid” - yeah and that powder helped with the rash too I’m sure. This could not be less relevant. Just wait until you learn what Bayer did during WWII as part of IG Farben. I'm pretty sure they had a Nuremberg trial about it. And yet we still take Aspirin. I suggest you stick to one thing at a time.
    - stalkersyndrome 5y ago

verdverm 5y ago

They got a liability waiver for the vaccines, no need to be concerned

stalkersyndrome 5y ago
Oh it gets better - the populace is turning on you if you weren’t as gullible as them in taking an experimental vaccine. How dare you think you’re above us, they snark. But it’s all gravy, it hasn’t even been a year and the same extortionist racket that plagues the country’s lack of affordable healthcare has already pocketed $22B from this. Booster shots? Already turning it into a subscription model. Keep the downvotes coming lads we are in it for the long-covid haul.
selectodude 5y ago
Literally every vaccine in the United States comes with a liability waiver. Since 1986, you've had to sue the US Federal Government. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Childhood_Vaccine_Injury_Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Childhood_Vaccine_Inj...
- verdverm 5y ago
  I think you are missing some facts here. COVID vaccines are not on the list of eligible vaccines for that program. You also can't sue the relevant govt departments for the COVID vaccine. This article does a nice job of going into the nuances https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/16/covid-vaccine-side-effects-compensation-lawsuit.html https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/16/covid-vaccine-side-effects-c... Also, a better link than a wikipedia article: https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/ensuringsafety/history/index.html https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/ensuringsafety/history/ind...
  - selectodude 5y ago
    I'm confused which facts you think that I'm missing.

arcticbull 5y ago

> We’ve got one vaccine that’s been blacklisted due to high prevalence of blood clots. The risk of getting a blood clot from the J&J vaccine is 400,000:1. This is less likely than dying of COVID in any age category. 0.00025%. The risk of dying in a car accident in America is 0.01% every year. So you're 40X more likely to die in a car accident this year alone than get a serious blood clot from the J&J vaccine. The risk of being injured in a car accident in America is 1.15% every year. So you're 6000X more likely to be injured in a car accident this year than get a serious blood clot from the J&J vaccine. Nothing in life is risk-free. This is pretty close though.

stalkersyndrome 5y ago
Yeah you’re putting your faith in a company whose talcum powder has been causing cancer for decades and saying “it doesn’t kill you it’s not that bad” It’s an experimental vaccine that hasn’t even been out for a year mate. Use some better judgement. “Oh but it prevents covid” - yeah and that powder helped with the rash too I’m sure.
- arcticbull 5y ago
  > Yeah you’re putting your faith in a company whose talcum powder has been causing cancer for decades and saying “it doesn’t kill you it’s not that bad” No, I'm putting my faith in the CDC and VAERS, and an incredibly twitchy public willing to report absolutely anything and everything, in no small part because folks like you freak them out. > It’s an experimental vaccine that hasn’t even been out for a year mate. Use some better judgement. Yeah, it's been administered billions of times. Most "experimental" vaccines are given to around 1000 people total. This is like aspartame now - one of the most studied vaccines on earth. > “Oh but it prevents covid” - yeah and that powder helped with the rash too I’m sure. This could not be less relevant. Just wait until you learn what Bayer did during WWII as part of IG Farben. I'm pretty sure they had a Nuremberg trial about it. And yet we still take Aspirin. I suggest you stick to one thing at a time.
  - stalkersyndrome 5y ago