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I see it very simple, and my firsts ache to reach the face of a first person to shout "lets do SWOT analysis!" First, water must be coming to the camp some way

I see it very simple, and my firsts ache to reach the face of a first person to shout "lets do SWOT analysis!" First, water must be coming to the camp some way, or another, or people would've been dead. Whether it's in tankers, or anything else. Second, just go, and buy a 2nd hand 1kva generator from eBay for $150-$200, and a cheapest owned 10-15kg washing machine. Spend the rest on few months of water in tankers, and fuel.

mschuster91 5y ago
> First, water must be coming to the camp some way, or another, or people would've been dead. The water (and fwiw, also food, medicine, literally everything) coming into refugee camps is extremely, extremely rationed to a point where even in summer months, people have to get by with sometimes half a liter per day and person. Forget about showering, forget about washing clothes. The biggest single cause of the 2015 mass migration was that Germany withdrew its UNHCR funding from 301 million $ to 143 million $ (per https://www.heise.de/tp/features/EU-Staaten-hatten-2015-fast-durchweg-Hilfen-fuer-syrische-Fluechtlinge-gekuerzt-3375668.html https://www.heise.de/tp/features/EU-Staaten-hatten-2015-fast...). The result of that loss of a small amount of money was that suddenly hundreds of thousands of people lost access to food. With the current financing situations, the last thing refugee camps need is more to take account for in the supply chain.
- baybal2 5y ago
  I don't swallow this. Even in the most water starved countries, 10000 litre tanker delivery costs $10 at most. That's 1 million tons of water for 1 million bucks a year. It will be an insult to my intelligence to believe this. If you don't need drinking water the cost will go down further.
  - mynameisvlad 5y ago
    > 10000 litre tanker delivery costs $10 at most. Source? Because I highly doubt that the entire supply chain, from getting the water to the tanker, to getting the tanker to the refugee camp, to unloading and making it available for use, costs $10 at most for a single tanker. Hell, even without the last step. Even without the first step. The fuel alone to get a tanker to the camp from wherever is itself more than $10.
    - baybal2 5y ago
      That's the cost in Karachi with its completely depleted water table, where water comes from tens of kms from outside of the city.
      - mynameisvlad 5y ago
        Once again, source? You're making pretty wild claims, you really need numbers to back it up.
        mschuster91 5y ago
        A quick google for "karachi water cost" brought up this: https://www.samaa.tv/news/pakistan/2021/01/karachi-water-tanker-rates-increased-by-rs300-to-rs500/ https://www.samaa.tv/news/pakistan/2021/01/karachi-water-tan... Given 2340 pakistani rupees for a 3000 gal tanker, it's about 12€ or 14$ by today's exchange rate. A tiny bit more expensive than GP claimed, but acceptably close enough.

mschuster91 5y ago

> First, water must be coming to the camp some way, or another, or people would've been dead. The water (and fwiw, also food, medicine, literally everything) coming into refugee camps is extremely, extremely rationed to a point where even in summer months, people have to get by with sometimes half a liter per day and person. Forget about showering, forget about washing clothes. The biggest single cause of the 2015 mass migration was that Germany withdrew its UNHCR funding from 301 million $ to 143 million $ (per https://www.heise.de/tp/features/EU-Staaten-hatten-2015-fast-durchweg-Hilfen-fuer-syrische-Fluechtlinge-gekuerzt-3375668.html https://www.heise.de/tp/features/EU-Staaten-hatten-2015-fast...). The result of that loss of a small amount of money was that suddenly hundreds of thousands of people lost access to food. With the current financing situations, the last thing refugee camps need is more to take account for in the supply chain.

baybal2 5y ago
I don't swallow this. Even in the most water starved countries, 10000 litre tanker delivery costs $10 at most. That's 1 million tons of water for 1 million bucks a year. It will be an insult to my intelligence to believe this. If you don't need drinking water the cost will go down further.
- mynameisvlad 5y ago
  > 10000 litre tanker delivery costs $10 at most. Source? Because I highly doubt that the entire supply chain, from getting the water to the tanker, to getting the tanker to the refugee camp, to unloading and making it available for use, costs $10 at most for a single tanker. Hell, even without the last step. Even without the first step. The fuel alone to get a tanker to the camp from wherever is itself more than $10.
  - baybal2 5y ago
    That's the cost in Karachi with its completely depleted water table, where water comes from tens of kms from outside of the city.
    - mynameisvlad 5y ago
      Once again, source? You're making pretty wild claims, you really need numbers to back it up.
      - mschuster91 5y ago
        A quick google for "karachi water cost" brought up this: https://www.samaa.tv/news/pakistan/2021/01/karachi-water-tanker-rates-increased-by-rs300-to-rs500/ https://www.samaa.tv/news/pakistan/2021/01/karachi-water-tan... Given 2340 pakistani rupees for a 3000 gal tanker, it's about 12€ or 14$ by today's exchange rate. A tiny bit more expensive than GP claimed, but acceptably close enough.