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> Emancipation happened over 100 years ago, So did the introduction of steam, IC, and electric machinery. Your quibble is with the OP. Emancipation happened r

> Emancipation happened over 100 years ago, So did the introduction of steam, IC, and electric machinery. Your quibble is with the OP. Emancipation happened right around the time of the introduction of large-scale steam power. This was not a coincidence.

IncRnd 5y ago
That also doesn't apply to the conversation, which was about a branch of history that could have started 100 years ago, not 160 years ago.
- Turing_Machine 5y ago
  The "conversation", such as it is, had its origin in the OP (or the person he's citing) incorrectly stating that the power revolution happened 100 years ago. It didn't. Now, some might try to argue that the process of eliminating slavery/serfdom just happened to coincide with the development of non-human-powered machinery (like maybe humans just somehow became more moral and less-prone to exploiting their fellow-humans). But you know what? That's basically just a load of crap. It doesn't explain the near-perfect correlation between the development of powered equipment and the disappearance of slavery/serfdom, world-wide, carried out over the course of centuries, appearing first (again, apparently just by coincidence) in the more technologically-advanced countries (such as Western Europe), and later in the less-technologically-advanced countries (such as Russia, Asia, and (at that time) the United States) Water, steam, internal combustion, and electricity is what ended slavery/serfdom. Get rid of those and slavery/serfdom will be back before you know it.
  - Turing_Machine 5y ago
    Note that even within the United States, slavery disappeared first in the industrialized North, and last in the rural South.
  - IncRnd 5y ago
    > The "conversation", such as it is, had its origin in the OP (or the person he's citing) incorrectly stating that the power revolution happened 100 years ago. It didn't. You are kind of inventing something that wasn't written. The OP wrote, "What if many of our machines used human power like they did 100 years ago, but were made far more efficient and effective than they were 100 years ago?"

IncRnd 5y ago

That also doesn't apply to the conversation, which was about a branch of history that could have started 100 years ago, not 160 years ago.

Turing_Machine 5y ago
The "conversation", such as it is, had its origin in the OP (or the person he's citing) incorrectly stating that the power revolution happened 100 years ago. It didn't. Now, some might try to argue that the process of eliminating slavery/serfdom just happened to coincide with the development of non-human-powered machinery (like maybe humans just somehow became more moral and less-prone to exploiting their fellow-humans). But you know what? That's basically just a load of crap. It doesn't explain the near-perfect correlation between the development of powered equipment and the disappearance of slavery/serfdom, world-wide, carried out over the course of centuries, appearing first (again, apparently just by coincidence) in the more technologically-advanced countries (such as Western Europe), and later in the less-technologically-advanced countries (such as Russia, Asia, and (at that time) the United States) Water, steam, internal combustion, and electricity is what ended slavery/serfdom. Get rid of those and slavery/serfdom will be back before you know it.
- Turing_Machine 5y ago
  Note that even within the United States, slavery disappeared first in the industrialized North, and last in the rural South.
- IncRnd 5y ago
  > The "conversation", such as it is, had its origin in the OP (or the person he's citing) incorrectly stating that the power revolution happened 100 years ago. It didn't. You are kind of inventing something that wasn't written. The OP wrote, "What if many of our machines used human power like they did 100 years ago, but were made far more efficient and effective than they were 100 years ago?"