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I don't understand why they wouldn't use historical examples or stuff about aliens or big foot. History is a great filter and we can now somewhat reasonably und
by bko 5y ago
I don't understand why they wouldn't use historical examples or stuff about aliens or big foot. History is a great filter and we can now somewhat reasonably understand smear campaigns and propaganda from decades ago. It's not as clear what's being manipulated at the current moment.
This just seems more like a way to influence children's political leanings.
- temp8964 5y agoConsidering the 1619 project is being pushed into public schools, I am pretty sure history can be manipulated too.
- drunkpotato 5y agoHistory has always been manipulated. It’s written by the victor, after all (for the most part). It is very telling what your complaint is; you’re just mad that your favored whitewashing of history is being challenged.
- kyleee 5y agoIt's telling that the user is upset that lies are being promoted by our media, to the extent that people are attempting to insert them into children's school curriculum? It's just an awful line of reasoning to assert that because people have lied in the past, that we should cherish lies and continue to adopt new ones moving forward
- drunkpotato 5y agoGive it a rest. The fact you’re attributing words and sentiments I didn’t write and arguing with a straw man tells me there will be no productive discussion between us.
- temp8964 5y agoThis is what you said to me: "you’re just mad that your favored whitewashing of history is being challenged". Do you even have remote understanding of what "productive discussion" means?
- avs733 5y agoYou realize that a major portion of the 1619 project is discussing demonstrating HOW history HAS been manipulated. What you are referring to is the history we choose to center something DIFFERENT is somehow now being treated as 'manipulated' It's not. Choosing what to center and what not to center isn't inherently manipulative, its human nature. Its why I focus on my running and my research and my partner at the expense of learning a new language or instrument. I center things in my life that I'm good at and bring me joy. The fact that people are angry about shifting the centering is why literacy is important - because identifying the centering rather than jumping to 'bias' or 'manipulation' is where the literacy comes from.
- temp8964 5y agoNo. It's not about "shifting the centering". It's about factually wrong. Updated: source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_1619_Project https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_1619_Project
- avs733 5y agocan you provide examples of that? clarifying: you claimed there were errors, pls provide examples. You made a claim, its not unreasonable to be asked to support it.
- temp8964 5y agoI am not sure why are you asking. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_1619_Project https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_1619_Project Copy a little bit to show the dishonesty of the project creator: > In September 2020, lead 1619 Project writer Nikole Hannah-Jones criticized conservatives for their depiction of the project, arguing that it "does not argue that 1619 is our true founding".[12] Atlantic writer Conor Friedersdorf responded on Twitter by citing statements from Hannah-Jones arguing that 1619 was the nation's true founding.[12] Philip Magness said in a Quillette essay that the claim that the project aimed to "reframe the country's history, understanding 1619 as our true founding" had been removed from the opening text of project's page on the New York Times' site without an accompanying correction notice.
- ethbr0 5y agoLike, you know, the multiple times the US has gone to war over misleading and incomplete claims? (1898, 1964, 2002)