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That lab leak theory is the most amazing example of widespread bias on all sides I've ever seen. We went from it being banned on Facebook to it having mainstre

That lab leak theory is the most amazing example of widespread bias on all sides I've ever seen. We went from it being banned on Facebook to it having mainstream acceptance in like a week despite ZERO change in the underlying evidence. The evidence was always just "well there's a lab there". The only thing that changed was Trump isn't president anymore. It's the perfect rorschach issue for underlying bias, free of any clearcut facts that might be evaluated neutrally.

colinmhayes 5y ago
There was that scientist who said it wasn't a lab leak but it turns out he may have been paid by China.
- refenestrator 5y ago
  May have! And how would he know anyways? He can't prove a negative. If someone had collected US research grant money and went the other way would we call them 'paid by America'? Like I said. The perfect rorschach issue.
whimsicalism 5y ago
I've always been of the opinion that a lab leak is certainly possible, but still very unlikely. It's been wild seeing this rollercoaster that is entirely based on media coverage without one shred of evidence either way. Very disenchanted with the media over the last 5 years, and it did not used to be this bad.
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ErikVandeWater 5y ago
The coverup with a man who authorized the funding for the lab being the only American on the WHO scientific panel investigating the lab was the smoking gun for me. It really doesn't matter if it came from the lab or from the environment. The fact that they covered it up shows the lab was breaking protocols and they believed it could have been the lab that released the virus. The lab needs to be shut down and similar labs shut as well to institute a major overhaul of the system.
- refenestrator 5y ago
  Covered what up? It's not like the virus signed out at the front desk and they're hiding it. Nobody knows, there's no evidence to cover up.
  - ErikVandeWater 5y ago
    They decided not to collect the evidence. Much more pressure could have been put on China to make the lab and its records available for review.
    - refenestrator 5y ago
      It's already been telegraphed wide and clear that there are a bunch of Western people dying to pin covid on China and that western media will give them airtime and print. Why would China give them ammunition? Even if we assume that the virus didn't come from a lab, it's impossible to prove and handing over a bunch of raw data to a motivated actor has no upsides.

colinmhayes 5y ago

There was that scientist who said it wasn't a lab leak but it turns out he may have been paid by China.

refenestrator 5y ago
May have! And how would he know anyways? He can't prove a negative. If someone had collected US research grant money and went the other way would we call them 'paid by America'? Like I said. The perfect rorschach issue.

whimsicalism 5y ago

I've always been of the opinion that a lab leak is certainly possible, but still very unlikely. It's been wild seeing this rollercoaster that is entirely based on media coverage without one shred of evidence either way. Very disenchanted with the media over the last 5 years, and it did not used to be this bad.

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ErikVandeWater 5y ago

The coverup with a man who authorized the funding for the lab being the only American on the WHO scientific panel investigating the lab was the smoking gun for me. It really doesn't matter if it came from the lab or from the environment. The fact that they covered it up shows the lab was breaking protocols and they believed it could have been the lab that released the virus. The lab needs to be shut down and similar labs shut as well to institute a major overhaul of the system.

refenestrator 5y ago
Covered what up? It's not like the virus signed out at the front desk and they're hiding it. Nobody knows, there's no evidence to cover up.
- ErikVandeWater 5y ago
  They decided not to collect the evidence. Much more pressure could have been put on China to make the lab and its records available for review.
  - refenestrator 5y ago
    It's already been telegraphed wide and clear that there are a bunch of Western people dying to pin covid on China and that western media will give them airtime and print. Why would China give them ammunition? Even if we assume that the virus didn't come from a lab, it's impossible to prove and handing over a bunch of raw data to a motivated actor has no upsides.