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Apex Fallacy is not listed again: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Apex%20Fallacy https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Apex%20Falla..

Apex Fallacy is not listed again: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Apex%20Fallacy https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Apex%20Falla...

rtkwe 5y ago
I think that's better a better fit for a logical fallacy chart than a cognitive bias list.
necheffa 5y ago
I wouldn't exactly call the urban dictionary a reliable source. Doing a DuckDuckGo for "apex fallacy" turns up a bunch of incel and mgtow sites. Is this even a _real_ fallacy?
- leereeves 5y ago
  The first result I see on DDG for "apex fallacy" is RationalWiki, which is a left-wing site. The definition there is "when someone evaluates a group based on the performance of best group members, not a representative sample of the group members." I can see why that's not included in most lists of fallacies. It's just a specific example of cherry picking, a well known fallacy that is already included in the lists.
  - dane-pgp 5y ago
    It also most likely occurs when the speaker identifies with the group whose performance they are over-estimating, and imagines that a similar level of performance can be imputed to them. Such cases are likely the result of the ingroup half of the Ultimate Attribution Error, where positive characteristics are seen as inherent properties of members of the ingroup, but exceptional when displayed by members of the outgroup. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultimate_attribution_error https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultimate_attribution_error
- mopierotti 5y ago
  This is my first time seeing this one mentioned, but I'm curious, what makes something a "real" fallacy? It seems like it's a real mistake that people make. I guess one could categorize it as a more specific case of misunderstanding a distribution of values. (In the same vein as mean vs median, outlier skewing, assuming unimodal vs bimodal distribution, etc.)
  - necheffa 5y ago
    The "realness" is determined by the signal to noise ratio. In this case I find mostly joke sites, memes, and sites trying to sell a political/social agenda using it.

Apex Fallacy is not listed again: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Apex%20Fallacy https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Apex%20Falla...

rtkwe 5y ago

I think that's better a better fit for a logical fallacy chart than a cognitive bias list.

necheffa 5y ago

I wouldn't exactly call the urban dictionary a reliable source. Doing a DuckDuckGo for "apex fallacy" turns up a bunch of incel and mgtow sites. Is this even a _real_ fallacy?

leereeves 5y ago
The first result I see on DDG for "apex fallacy" is RationalWiki, which is a left-wing site. The definition there is "when someone evaluates a group based on the performance of best group members, not a representative sample of the group members." I can see why that's not included in most lists of fallacies. It's just a specific example of cherry picking, a well known fallacy that is already included in the lists.
- dane-pgp 5y ago
  It also most likely occurs when the speaker identifies with the group whose performance they are over-estimating, and imagines that a similar level of performance can be imputed to them. Such cases are likely the result of the ingroup half of the Ultimate Attribution Error, where positive characteristics are seen as inherent properties of members of the ingroup, but exceptional when displayed by members of the outgroup. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultimate_attribution_error https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultimate_attribution_error
mopierotti 5y ago
This is my first time seeing this one mentioned, but I'm curious, what makes something a "real" fallacy? It seems like it's a real mistake that people make. I guess one could categorize it as a more specific case of misunderstanding a distribution of values. (In the same vein as mean vs median, outlier skewing, assuming unimodal vs bimodal distribution, etc.)
- necheffa 5y ago
  The "realness" is determined by the signal to noise ratio. In this case I find mostly joke sites, memes, and sites trying to sell a political/social agenda using it.