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So... this is a sdk + platform that basically downloads a "description" of an app onto the device, then builds a UI based on that description? Is this actually

So... this is a sdk + platform that basically downloads a "description" of an app onto the device, then builds a UI based on that description? Is this actually positioning itself to be a realistic replacement for production ready native apps? Or is this just meant to be a rapid prototyping / 1 use throwaway apps? From the use case it seems one could use Judo for specific parts of an app, for example, a user onboarding flow, together with A-B testing, while allowing the rest of the app a native build?

ruckstar 5y ago
Judo is meant to integrate into your existing iOS and Android app. It's not an "app builder" platform. Instead, Judo facilitates server-driven UI for parts of your app where it makes sense. Typically areas that are displaying lots of data driven content and/or benefit from rapid iteration. It's also a great fit for ephemeral marketing content that doesn't make sense to be built by hand and go through a full release cycle.
- mithusingh32 5y ago
  Is the title is misleading? It sounds like it's a tool to build server-driven components for your native app?
  - ruckstar 5y ago
    It's both a no-code tool for building native mobile interfaces AND a platform for hosting/serving them remotely (i.e. server-driven UI). It doesn't make sense to use this for your entire app but it's an invaluable tool for certain use cases. We're still playing with our marketing language. Very interested in feedback on how you'd position this.
    - danpalmer 5y ago
      I was quite confused as well. I assumed from the beginning that this was a tool for building a whole app, and I was confused about why there was no App Store/Play Store process involved, and how any backend logic would work. What I understand now, and where I see the value, is in this being a low-logic CMS – i.e. you can do a lot more than a flat article, but you likely wouldn't build a full app with it. I can imagine us (as an iOS team) adding this as our Blog section in the app, and handing over responsibility for all the design, navigation, interaction, and articles, in it to our content team. They might even make our article much more interactive with this (quiz idea is great!). Currently they use a regular CMS for posts and we handle all the information hierarchy which isn't ideal.
      - ruckstar 5y ago
        Great feedback, this is really helping us understand how to improve our messaging. The blog section in your app is a great use case.
- jnwatson 5y ago
  This information should be more readily apparent from your landing page.
  - ruckstar 5y ago
    Agreed. We have work to do!

ruckstar 5y ago

Judo is meant to integrate into your existing iOS and Android app. It's not an "app builder" platform. Instead, Judo facilitates server-driven UI for parts of your app where it makes sense. Typically areas that are displaying lots of data driven content and/or benefit from rapid iteration. It's also a great fit for ephemeral marketing content that doesn't make sense to be built by hand and go through a full release cycle.

mithusingh32 5y ago
Is the title is misleading? It sounds like it's a tool to build server-driven components for your native app?
- ruckstar 5y ago
  It's both a no-code tool for building native mobile interfaces AND a platform for hosting/serving them remotely (i.e. server-driven UI). It doesn't make sense to use this for your entire app but it's an invaluable tool for certain use cases. We're still playing with our marketing language. Very interested in feedback on how you'd position this.
  - danpalmer 5y ago
    I was quite confused as well. I assumed from the beginning that this was a tool for building a whole app, and I was confused about why there was no App Store/Play Store process involved, and how any backend logic would work. What I understand now, and where I see the value, is in this being a low-logic CMS – i.e. you can do a lot more than a flat article, but you likely wouldn't build a full app with it. I can imagine us (as an iOS team) adding this as our Blog section in the app, and handing over responsibility for all the design, navigation, interaction, and articles, in it to our content team. They might even make our article much more interactive with this (quiz idea is great!). Currently they use a regular CMS for posts and we handle all the information hierarchy which isn't ideal.
    - ruckstar 5y ago
      Great feedback, this is really helping us understand how to improve our messaging. The blog section in your app is a great use case.
jnwatson 5y ago
This information should be more readily apparent from your landing page.
- ruckstar 5y ago
  Agreed. We have work to do!