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Children are not at risk like adults are. I say get back to normal and let the unvaccinated adults suffer the consequences of their own actions.

musha68k 5y ago
Unfortunately there is increasingly more data that shows that SARS-CoV-2 is not benign in children. For example this rather early analysis from 2020 included more than 2,000 children who got infected. 10.6% of infants under 1 year of age had severe or critical symptoms. All of these infants survived but a small number of infants in the United States have died following diagnosis with COVID-19 even then before Delta (or even Lambda and other variants). https://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/pediatrics/early/2020/03/16/peds.2020-0702.full.pdf https://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/pediatrics/ea... I have rolled too many d10 not to worry a lot about this.
- oxymoran 5y ago
  People under the age of 1 is not even close to equaling “kids”. Come on.
  - musha68k 5y ago
    Your point being what exactly? Apart from more severe outcomes for babies than what we thought there are children that increasingly have to be treated for pneumonia at hospitals. Also long covid is on the rise. This has been widely reported recently. https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/long-covid-afflicts-kids-too-heres-what-we-know-so-far https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/long-covi... https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2021/08/09/health/coronavirus-children-delta.amp.html https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2021/08/09/heal...
    - musha68k 5y ago
      Also for latest information, lots of interesting questions in current TWiV Q&A surrounding this topic as well: https://youtu.be/_MvRUtbUEqU https://youtu.be/_MvRUtbUEqU
HWR_14 5y ago
Delta is apparently pretty risky to kids. And kids are at risk from long-COVID. Why they are doing in person school and fighting over mask mandates I'll never understand. Even if children suffered no ill effects, they'll act as disease vectors for adults and breakthrough cases.
- oxymoran 5y ago
  What is your source? This is hearsay bullshit otherwise.
  - 0xdeadb00f 5y ago
    I have heard of this too, but never looked into it. So I just looked into it. I found a couple of news articles [0][1]. [2] says: > Kids remain, as they have been throughout the pandemic, at much lower risk of getting seriously sick with the coronavirus, especially compared with unvaccinated adults. But the recent rash of illnesses among the nation’s youngest is a sobering reminder of the COVID-19 adage that lower risk is not no risk. With so many children unable to access vaccines and their health contingent on those around them, parents and guardians must now navigate the reality that Delta represents a more serious danger to everyone—which means it’s a more serious danger to kids as well. 0: https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jul/04/delta-variant-what-do-we-know-about-the-coronavirus-strain-in-australian-children https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jul/04/delta... 1: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07-06/children-need-covid-protection-vaccines-experts-say/100269228 https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07-06/children-need-covid-p... 2: https://amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/619712/ https://amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/619712/
  - HWR_14 5y ago
    > What is your source? one source: https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2021/08/delta-variant-covid-children/619712/ https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2021/08/delta-var... The NYT says 1% of infected kids ends up in the hospital: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/09/health/coronavirus-children-delta.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/09/health/coronavirus-childr... (Obviously, you need to recognize more kids are catching delta so the base is increasing.) France tells us about kids facing long covid: https://www.france24.com/en/health/20210812-young-people-hit-hard-by-long-covid-as-delta-variant-surges https://www.france24.com/en/health/20210812-young-people-hit...

musha68k 5y ago

Unfortunately there is increasingly more data that shows that SARS-CoV-2 is not benign in children. For example this rather early analysis from 2020 included more than 2,000 children who got infected. 10.6% of infants under 1 year of age had severe or critical symptoms. All of these infants survived but a small number of infants in the United States have died following diagnosis with COVID-19 even then before Delta (or even Lambda and other variants). https://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/pediatrics/early/2020/03/16/peds.2020-0702.full.pdf https://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/pediatrics/ea... I have rolled too many d10 not to worry a lot about this.

oxymoran 5y ago
People under the age of 1 is not even close to equaling “kids”. Come on.
- musha68k 5y ago
  Your point being what exactly? Apart from more severe outcomes for babies than what we thought there are children that increasingly have to be treated for pneumonia at hospitals. Also long covid is on the rise. This has been widely reported recently. https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/long-covid-afflicts-kids-too-heres-what-we-know-so-far https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/long-covi... https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2021/08/09/health/coronavirus-children-delta.amp.html https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2021/08/09/heal...
  - musha68k 5y ago
    Also for latest information, lots of interesting questions in current TWiV Q&A surrounding this topic as well: https://youtu.be/_MvRUtbUEqU https://youtu.be/_MvRUtbUEqU

HWR_14 5y ago

Delta is apparently pretty risky to kids. And kids are at risk from long-COVID. Why they are doing in person school and fighting over mask mandates I'll never understand. Even if children suffered no ill effects, they'll act as disease vectors for adults and breakthrough cases.

oxymoran 5y ago
What is your source? This is hearsay bullshit otherwise.
- 0xdeadb00f 5y ago
  I have heard of this too, but never looked into it. So I just looked into it. I found a couple of news articles [0][1]. [2] says: > Kids remain, as they have been throughout the pandemic, at much lower risk of getting seriously sick with the coronavirus, especially compared with unvaccinated adults. But the recent rash of illnesses among the nation’s youngest is a sobering reminder of the COVID-19 adage that lower risk is not no risk. With so many children unable to access vaccines and their health contingent on those around them, parents and guardians must now navigate the reality that Delta represents a more serious danger to everyone—which means it’s a more serious danger to kids as well. 0: https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jul/04/delta-variant-what-do-we-know-about-the-coronavirus-strain-in-australian-children https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jul/04/delta... 1: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07-06/children-need-covid-protection-vaccines-experts-say/100269228 https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07-06/children-need-covid-p... 2: https://amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/619712/ https://amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/619712/
- HWR_14 5y ago
  > What is your source? one source: https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2021/08/delta-variant-covid-children/619712/ https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2021/08/delta-var... The NYT says 1% of infected kids ends up in the hospital: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/09/health/coronavirus-children-delta.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/09/health/coronavirus-childr... (Obviously, you need to recognize more kids are catching delta so the base is increasing.) France tells us about kids facing long covid: https://www.france24.com/en/health/20210812-young-people-hit-hard-by-long-covid-as-delta-variant-surges https://www.france24.com/en/health/20210812-young-people-hit...