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No, its a whitelist. There are plenty of abandoned apps that haven't been updated in years, which I would like to run on M1, but aren't available.

DaiPlusPlus 5y ago
Isn't that because the apps haven't been recompiled for ARM64 though?
- gjsman-1000 5y ago
  No iPad has ever run intel, and Apple went 64 bit over half a decade ago.
  - larusso 5y ago
    Yes in 2014 they made the move. The first iPad is from 2010. So we have 4 years worth of old arm compiled apps. I don‘t understand the intel part though.
KMnO4 5y ago
It’s a whitelist, but it’s opt-out. You have to specifically check “do not let this app run on Mac” in the App Store Connect portal.
- rightiousrob 5y ago
  Guys, an opt-out whitelist is per definition a blacklist. I.e what is done explicitly defines the color. Explicit Allow (blacklist opt out) -> whitelist Explicit Deny (whitelist opt out) -> blacklist
  - janaagaard 5y ago
    Except that old apps that aren’t updated, are not put on the whitelist. (This is what I understand from the comments above.)
- IncRnd 5y ago
  > It’s a whitelist, but it’s opt-out. That's a blacklist.
  - Closi 5y ago
    If it's a whitelist or a blacklist is really just an implementation detail. The key here is that the developer can choose to opt-in/out when uploading to the mac store (defaulting to opt-in), however older apps will be opt-out by default (as the developer didn't have this choice when they uploaded).
    - IncRnd 5y ago
      What applies to this conversation, however, is the correct use of terms and to not use the opposite, incorrect term.
      - Closi 5y ago
        Well if you want to get technical on terms, it’s probably not implemented as either a whitelist or a blacklist and is probably just a database field which was defaulted to false during the migration. And because it’s likely implemented like that, you can either generate a whitelist or blacklist if you want, but in reality it’s highly unlikely it’s implemented as either of these things. But regardless it seems like this whole thread is just about semantics anyway.
swiley 5y ago
Since you have root couldn't you just patch the runtime to whitelist the app you want to run?
- FootballMuse 5y ago
  It does a server-side check.

DaiPlusPlus 5y ago

Isn't that because the apps haven't been recompiled for ARM64 though?

gjsman-1000 5y ago
No iPad has ever run intel, and Apple went 64 bit over half a decade ago.
- larusso 5y ago
  Yes in 2014 they made the move. The first iPad is from 2010. So we have 4 years worth of old arm compiled apps. I don‘t understand the intel part though.

KMnO4 5y ago

It’s a whitelist, but it’s opt-out. You have to specifically check “do not let this app run on Mac” in the App Store Connect portal.

rightiousrob 5y ago
Guys, an opt-out whitelist is per definition a blacklist. I.e what is done explicitly defines the color. Explicit Allow (blacklist opt out) -> whitelist Explicit Deny (whitelist opt out) -> blacklist
- janaagaard 5y ago
  Except that old apps that aren’t updated, are not put on the whitelist. (This is what I understand from the comments above.)
IncRnd 5y ago
> It’s a whitelist, but it’s opt-out. That's a blacklist.
- Closi 5y ago
  If it's a whitelist or a blacklist is really just an implementation detail. The key here is that the developer can choose to opt-in/out when uploading to the mac store (defaulting to opt-in), however older apps will be opt-out by default (as the developer didn't have this choice when they uploaded).
  - IncRnd 5y ago
    What applies to this conversation, however, is the correct use of terms and to not use the opposite, incorrect term.
    - Closi 5y ago
      Well if you want to get technical on terms, it’s probably not implemented as either a whitelist or a blacklist and is probably just a database field which was defaulted to false during the migration. And because it’s likely implemented like that, you can either generate a whitelist or blacklist if you want, but in reality it’s highly unlikely it’s implemented as either of these things. But regardless it seems like this whole thread is just about semantics anyway.

swiley 5y ago

Since you have root couldn't you just patch the runtime to whitelist the app you want to run?

FootballMuse 5y ago
It does a server-side check.