I’m not making statements about the way things ought to be, I’m being pragmatic about the way things are. We’re trusting a lot of the stack. Apple’s policy as

I’m not making statements about the way things ought to be, I’m being pragmatic about the way things are. We’re trusting a lot of the stack. Apple’s policy as described is reasonable. If you distrust it because of the things they could do, that same logic applies to the entire stack. The nature of modern software distribution is that the majority of the stuff we use from centralized corporations is governed by policy, not technical capability or controls, and you don’t get to know the details. You don’t own the OS you use, you don’t own the important parts of your phone. This can be different. Decentralized applications via protocols are interesting (DeFi blockchain stuff like Audius or other apps on Ethereum). If the UX can get figured out. Urbit is interesting too - if you want to actually own your stack, use Urbit: https://media.urbit.org/whitepaper.pdf https://media.urbit.org/whitepaper.pdf Outside of decentralized protocols you’re ultimately just trusting policy somewhere. It seems dumb to me to arbitrarily be upset at Apple’s policy here, when the specifics are reasonable (and allow for e2ee).