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Tesla pure vision FSD Beta completes LA to SF border trip with no disengagements

17 points by heshiebee 5y ago

lhorie 5y ago
Honest question, why is this noteworthy? Isn't driving on the I-5 mostly pretty chill/straightforward? My understanding of self driving is that all the concerns are about handling potential incidents at high risk situations (e.g. intersections, construction, etc) Statistically speaking, one disengagement in ~10 hours of self driving feels like it's nothing to write home about.
- sidibe 5y ago
  > why is this noteworthy? It's not and other companies (maybe even Tesla itself?) have been able to do this since at least the early 2010's. Tesla gets a lot of marketing bang for their buck by letting a couple dozen Youtubers pay for and test their autonomous driving software instead of paid safety drivers. It make it feels more like something anyone can buy now unlike the competitions self-driving cars... and you can pay for it now! just it doesn't come with the features you expect from watching the videos or seeing the name of the product.
  - powerbroker 5y ago
    The video came across as an 8 minute commercial, narrated by Andrej Karpathy, the head of the autonomous driving effort at Tesla. There is a lot of shady ways to push a product these days -- but slipping this into my 'news-feed' has to take the cake.
    - yuppie_scum 5y ago
      That is the goal of digital marketing.
- Tempest1981 5y ago
  Parts of I-5 are a mess... only 2 lanes, with trucks slowing the right lane to 55 mph. Then a constant parade of cars cutting from the right lane into the bumper-to-bumper 75 mph left lane, nearly getting rear-ended, to avoid those slow trucks. Then switching back right, slamming on their brakes to merge in. But maybe they drove it early morning on a weekday?
powerbroker 5y ago
The tweet that referenced the YouTube video explicitly stated that there was one disengagement. A review of the video shows at least two disengagements. Something like 90% of the driving was on highways -- which is no different than the Tesla Autopilot from 5 years ago. So, by my math, you have 2 disengagements in the roughly 1 hour of 'city streets' driving. This is what passes for journalism today.
- vardump 5y ago
  Articles about Tesla must be ridiculously inaccurate against or overtly favorable. Nothing else gets clicks.
pascoej 5y ago
Pronto claimed to do SF-NYC with zero disengagements in 2018. https://vimeo.com/306969319 https://vimeo.com/306969319
sroussey 5y ago
Kids and their Q-beams shining down from freeway overpasses —- at some point they will hit YouTube.
smt88 5y ago
This is literally Tesla PR/propaganda. It doesn't seem to tell us anything new or even true.

17 points by heshiebee 5y ago

Honest question, why is this noteworthy? Isn't driving on the I-5 mostly pretty chill/straightforward? My understanding of self driving is that all the concerns are about handling potential incidents at high risk situations (e.g. intersections, construction, etc) Statistically speaking, one disengagement in ~10 hours of self driving feels like it's nothing to write home about.

sidibe 5y ago
> why is this noteworthy? It's not and other companies (maybe even Tesla itself?) have been able to do this since at least the early 2010's. Tesla gets a lot of marketing bang for their buck by letting a couple dozen Youtubers pay for and test their autonomous driving software instead of paid safety drivers. It make it feels more like something anyone can buy now unlike the competitions self-driving cars... and you can pay for it now! just it doesn't come with the features you expect from watching the videos or seeing the name of the product.
- powerbroker 5y ago
  The video came across as an 8 minute commercial, narrated by Andrej Karpathy, the head of the autonomous driving effort at Tesla. There is a lot of shady ways to push a product these days -- but slipping this into my 'news-feed' has to take the cake.
  - yuppie_scum 5y ago
    That is the goal of digital marketing.
Tempest1981 5y ago
Parts of I-5 are a mess... only 2 lanes, with trucks slowing the right lane to 55 mph. Then a constant parade of cars cutting from the right lane into the bumper-to-bumper 75 mph left lane, nearly getting rear-ended, to avoid those slow trucks. Then switching back right, slamming on their brakes to merge in. But maybe they drove it early morning on a weekday?

powerbroker 5y ago

The tweet that referenced the YouTube video explicitly stated that there was one disengagement. A review of the video shows at least two disengagements. Something like 90% of the driving was on highways -- which is no different than the Tesla Autopilot from 5 years ago. So, by my math, you have 2 disengagements in the roughly 1 hour of 'city streets' driving. This is what passes for journalism today.

vardump 5y ago
Articles about Tesla must be ridiculously inaccurate against or overtly favorable. Nothing else gets clicks.

pascoej 5y ago

Pronto claimed to do SF-NYC with zero disengagements in 2018. https://vimeo.com/306969319 https://vimeo.com/306969319

sroussey 5y ago

Kids and their Q-beams shining down from freeway overpasses —- at some point they will hit YouTube.

smt88 5y ago

This is literally Tesla PR/propaganda. It doesn't seem to tell us anything new or even true.