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Keep in mind there are two completely disjointed networks of recruiters. The first is basically LinkedIn spam at this point. It's typically an outsourced opera

Keep in mind there are two completely disjointed networks of recruiters. The first is basically LinkedIn spam at this point. It's typically an outsourced operation (can be several layers of outsourcing for larger organizations) where the "recruiters" are given keywords to match with profiles and a set of canned response to literally copy-paste in the chat. The point is simply to have a steady incomming stream of resumes of people looking for a new job. When there's headcount they might start sending automated messages advertizing recruiting events. The second is, well, a network of recruiters where nobody is a "recruiter". They are "headhunters", "talent acquisition lead" or just "involved with hiring". It's when your friend insists on buying coffee a week before the next funding round of the startup he works at is announced and he is curious if you like your current job. It's when you make a few referrals for a new project before headcount is officially announced (watch out for the commission!) and so on. Only one of them matters.

6AA4FD 5y ago
I'm not sure why it follows that only one of the two matters, or exactly what that even means in this context.
matthewowen 5y ago
This is just obviously untrue, and I have to think clearly so to almost anyone who has worked in the tech industry. Every tech company I’ve ever worked for absolutely has recruiters on staff who absolutely do outreach and shepherd candidates into the process for specific roles we are trying to fill. The idea that all unsolicited outreach is outsourced canned response quasi-spam just doesn’t fit with the reality I know from over a decade in this industry. There absolutely are low quality outsourced recruiters in the world, but the idea that there are two disjoint sets with low quality in one and only very warm referrals or specific headhunting in the other, yeah, thats really not true. These types of posts that are authoritative in tone but just clearly factually deficient are really the worst thing I see on this website.

6AA4FD 5y ago

I'm not sure why it follows that only one of the two matters, or exactly what that even means in this context.

matthewowen 5y ago

This is just obviously untrue, and I have to think clearly so to almost anyone who has worked in the tech industry. Every tech company I’ve ever worked for absolutely has recruiters on staff who absolutely do outreach and shepherd candidates into the process for specific roles we are trying to fill. The idea that all unsolicited outreach is outsourced canned response quasi-spam just doesn’t fit with the reality I know from over a decade in this industry. There absolutely are low quality outsourced recruiters in the world, but the idea that there are two disjoint sets with low quality in one and only very warm referrals or specific headhunting in the other, yeah, thats really not true. These types of posts that are authoritative in tone but just clearly factually deficient are really the worst thing I see on this website.