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Reddit is on its way down. It's been overrun by power-tripping mods, and there's no way to appeal a perma-ban! I've been banned from /r/india for just commenti

Reddit is on its way down. It's been overrun by power-tripping mods, and there's no way to appeal a perma-ban! I've been banned from /r/india for just commenting on another sub (/r/chodi, which was recommended by the app itself!); banned from /r/worldnews for disagreeing with the herd. The moment a decent, democratic discussion forum comes along, I'll jump ship to it.

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uDontKnowMe 5y ago
What do you mean by democratic? Are you thinking of some kind of election system to replace mods, and if so have you seen such a mechanism work anywhere else on forums?
- josephcsible 5y ago
  Stack Exchange isn't quite a forum, but doesn't its system fit that description and work well?
  - echelon 5y ago
    Slashdot also had a great moderation system. Way ahead of its time. ----- Edit: I was going to respond to [1], but I'm rate limited. Below is my comment: > Anonymity really hurts profits. That's what killed YikYak and continues to beleaguer anonymous message board monetization (well, maybe it's the content). Reddit at least has an interest graph going for it. If they can figure out how to boost subreddit discovery and encourage users pick the things they'll spend money on, then they'll be golden. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28157448 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28157448
  - SavantIdiot 5y ago
    StackOverflow is HEAVILY moderated. And still has lots of garbage. I have questions constantly taken down for being too vague, offtopic, not the right stackexchange, or not technical enough. I've even responded to takdowns with links to questions with hundreds of points that were almost the same, and ... nope. At least mark it redundant.
- 1024core 5y ago
  Give people votes proportional to the karma in that sub. Also, make it hard to perma-ban someone with over 100K karma points, especially in regional subs (like /r/india, etc.); you can change your interests, but you can't really change where you are from. If nothing else, force the mods to actually justify bans; and one subjective offense should not be enough to ban someone.
ramraj07 5y ago
Chodi is like the Indian version of TheDonald so no wonder. Not that /r/India is neutral either. Stop going to politics subs and you’ll be fine?
- toomim 5y ago
  The same thing happens on technology subs. I was banned on /r/bitcoin for posting on /r/btc.
  - mike_d 5y ago
    It isn't immediately obvious, but r/btc is full of trolls and shills for a bitcoin hard fork and other scam coins. I just checked it out and 2 of the 3 top posts were conspiracy videos about John McAfee.
    - itsdsmurrell 5y ago
      This couldn't be further from the truth. You sound like a BTC maximalist.
    - zapdrive 5y ago
      Nice try, Gregory (Maxwell).
  - SilverRed 5y ago
    Bitcoin and btc are politics subs though.
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- TeeMassive 5y ago
  "Stop using the website in the way it was intended; you must learn the bias of each subs or get banned. And by the way criticizing the bias of mods will also get you banned"
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keewee7 5y ago
I'm a Danish guy who has never posted anything on r/India but I was banned from both r/worldnews and r/India for calling out the racism against Indians on r/worldnews.
shp0ngle 5y ago
Just create a new account, problem solved.
- 1024core 5y ago
  But I can't create new views to align with the imbeciles posing as mods!
pcurve 5y ago
ArtisanVideos used to be my favorite until the mod unfairly banned me. It took me a while just to figure out that I was banned. When I inquired, it was because because I posted videos that are spammy advertising, which couldn't be further from the truth. Based on the response, it was clear that I was not dealing with someone in normal state so I just wrote it off as lost cause and stopped visiting. I had already thought the sub was on decline due to aggressive and unnecessary policing, because despite its huge membership, the content has become very stagnant. It's a shame because I've been on reddit for 10 years and I joined it the sub since its inception. ___ Looking at the sub now, it's clear that there was change in mod / ownership. https://www.reddit.com/r/ArtisanVideos/comments/oo7oxm/announcement_new_ownership_and_moderation_changes/ https://www.reddit.com/r/ArtisanVideos/comments/oo7oxm/annou... Quite unusual.
- BingoAhoy 5y ago
  So here's a conundrum. People like free discourse, but they also like quality content. Having a quality content safe haven usually involves some tyrannical or mob rule filtering mechanism in the form of weird idiosyncratic rules and policing + banning of offbeat posters. This same filtering mechanism is anti-free discourse. Is there a successful implementation that maximizes free discourse and quality content simultaneously(IE preventing spam, shallow comments, & offtopic stuff which inundate a forum turning it into a maze to find the good stuff) without the bad modding? Many forums once they reach critical mass even if they aren't heavy handed with policing still have an unsavory softhanded stiff-arming mechanism that's rife with bad [mod/mob] judgement, IE push everything not condoned by the mods or mobs into the place where few read. I'm sorry what I'm trying to describe is hard to put a finger on, but after being on reddit for 10 or more years yah notice some strange consistent peculiarities that are hard to put in words.

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uDontKnowMe 5y ago

What do you mean by democratic? Are you thinking of some kind of election system to replace mods, and if so have you seen such a mechanism work anywhere else on forums?

josephcsible 5y ago
Stack Exchange isn't quite a forum, but doesn't its system fit that description and work well?
- echelon 5y ago
  Slashdot also had a great moderation system. Way ahead of its time. ----- Edit: I was going to respond to [1], but I'm rate limited. Below is my comment: > Anonymity really hurts profits. That's what killed YikYak and continues to beleaguer anonymous message board monetization (well, maybe it's the content). Reddit at least has an interest graph going for it. If they can figure out how to boost subreddit discovery and encourage users pick the things they'll spend money on, then they'll be golden. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28157448 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28157448
- SavantIdiot 5y ago
  StackOverflow is HEAVILY moderated. And still has lots of garbage. I have questions constantly taken down for being too vague, offtopic, not the right stackexchange, or not technical enough. I've even responded to takdowns with links to questions with hundreds of points that were almost the same, and ... nope. At least mark it redundant.
1024core 5y ago
Give people votes proportional to the karma in that sub. Also, make it hard to perma-ban someone with over 100K karma points, especially in regional subs (like /r/india, etc.); you can change your interests, but you can't really change where you are from. If nothing else, force the mods to actually justify bans; and one subjective offense should not be enough to ban someone.

ramraj07 5y ago

Chodi is like the Indian version of TheDonald so no wonder. Not that /r/India is neutral either. Stop going to politics subs and you’ll be fine?

toomim 5y ago
The same thing happens on technology subs. I was banned on /r/bitcoin for posting on /r/btc.
- mike_d 5y ago
  It isn't immediately obvious, but r/btc is full of trolls and shills for a bitcoin hard fork and other scam coins. I just checked it out and 2 of the 3 top posts were conspiracy videos about John McAfee.
  - itsdsmurrell 5y ago
    This couldn't be further from the truth. You sound like a BTC maximalist.
  - zapdrive 5y ago
    Nice try, Gregory (Maxwell).
- SilverRed 5y ago
  Bitcoin and btc are politics subs though.
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TeeMassive 5y ago
"Stop using the website in the way it was intended; you must learn the bias of each subs or get banned. And by the way criticizing the bias of mods will also get you banned"
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keewee7 5y ago

I'm a Danish guy who has never posted anything on r/India but I was banned from both r/worldnews and r/India for calling out the racism against Indians on r/worldnews.

shp0ngle 5y ago

Just create a new account, problem solved.

1024core 5y ago
But I can't create new views to align with the imbeciles posing as mods!

pcurve 5y ago

ArtisanVideos used to be my favorite until the mod unfairly banned me. It took me a while just to figure out that I was banned. When I inquired, it was because because I posted videos that are spammy advertising, which couldn't be further from the truth. Based on the response, it was clear that I was not dealing with someone in normal state so I just wrote it off as lost cause and stopped visiting. I had already thought the sub was on decline due to aggressive and unnecessary policing, because despite its huge membership, the content has become very stagnant. It's a shame because I've been on reddit for 10 years and I joined it the sub since its inception. ___ Looking at the sub now, it's clear that there was change in mod / ownership. https://www.reddit.com/r/ArtisanVideos/comments/oo7oxm/announcement_new_ownership_and_moderation_changes/ https://www.reddit.com/r/ArtisanVideos/comments/oo7oxm/annou... Quite unusual.

BingoAhoy 5y ago
So here's a conundrum. People like free discourse, but they also like quality content. Having a quality content safe haven usually involves some tyrannical or mob rule filtering mechanism in the form of weird idiosyncratic rules and policing + banning of offbeat posters. This same filtering mechanism is anti-free discourse. Is there a successful implementation that maximizes free discourse and quality content simultaneously(IE preventing spam, shallow comments, & offtopic stuff which inundate a forum turning it into a maze to find the good stuff) without the bad modding? Many forums once they reach critical mass even if they aren't heavy handed with policing still have an unsavory softhanded stiff-arming mechanism that's rife with bad [mod/mob] judgement, IE push everything not condoned by the mods or mobs into the place where few read. I'm sorry what I'm trying to describe is hard to put a finger on, but after being on reddit for 10 or more years yah notice some strange consistent peculiarities that are hard to put in words.