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Signatures typically appear on printed documents. More and more often, they appear on separate signature pages, which don't include any terms or the signature o

Signatures typically appear on printed documents. More and more often, they appear on separate signature pages, which don't include any terms or the signature of the other side. Authentication is not document integrity. Printed documents are also easily edited. Print and PDF pages are easily exchanged. I've seen contracts where parties initialed each page. Don't ask me why. I don't think I've ever seen a contract of more than one page signed on each page. I own several bottles of Noodler's ink. If I ever sue on a paper contract, I expect I'll be sending a scan or a photocopy into evidence. There's nothing magical about pen and ink, new or old. We just have a longer history with it. Everything's just evidence.

number6 5y ago
Everything a Signaturen does is better done by an digital signature. It's crazy how one party signs a PDF, scans it, and sends it via mail to be signed and scanned by the other party. Legally no party then owns a signed copy because they just got send a copy of the signature which is void. Doesn't matter in court: these contracts are enforced. We have done it. In the end only the invoices really matter.
lmilcin 5y ago
> Signatures typically appear on printed documents. More and more often, they appear on separate signature pages, which don't include any terms or the signature of the other side. When you sign multi page document you sign every page. This is standard legal practice.
- kemitchell 5y ago
  Not in the United States. Where is your experience?
  - lmilcin 5y ago
    I live in Poland but I am mostly working contracts outside Poland or for foreign companies. When I receive negotiated contract for signing it is usual to expect the contract has already been at the very least initialed on every page by the other party. And I always initial every page of the contract whether the other party did it or not. Signing every page is not required for the contract to be enforceable but is standard practice.
  - scrollaway 5y ago
    It's common in several European countries including Belgium and France. And it is idiotic, of course.

number6 5y ago

Everything a Signaturen does is better done by an digital signature. It's crazy how one party signs a PDF, scans it, and sends it via mail to be signed and scanned by the other party. Legally no party then owns a signed copy because they just got send a copy of the signature which is void. Doesn't matter in court: these contracts are enforced. We have done it. In the end only the invoices really matter.

lmilcin 5y ago

> Signatures typically appear on printed documents. More and more often, they appear on separate signature pages, which don't include any terms or the signature of the other side. When you sign multi page document you sign every page. This is standard legal practice.

kemitchell 5y ago
Not in the United States. Where is your experience?
- lmilcin 5y ago
  I live in Poland but I am mostly working contracts outside Poland or for foreign companies. When I receive negotiated contract for signing it is usual to expect the contract has already been at the very least initialed on every page by the other party. And I always initial every page of the contract whether the other party did it or not. Signing every page is not required for the contract to be enforceable but is standard practice.
- scrollaway 5y ago
  It's common in several European countries including Belgium and France. And it is idiotic, of course.