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Please stop insulting people because they chose less privacy than you. Don't act superior. I would posit that just about everyone who reads hackernews knows th
by stjohnswarts 5y ago
Please stop insulting people because they chose less privacy than you. Don't act superior. I would posit that just about everyone who reads hackernews knows that privacy and security are on a spectrum. People complaining about this as the last straw have every right to do so and this is a huge leap from Apple's previous position. No one thinks you're any smarter by saying "I told you so".
- AuthorizedCust 5y agoI think what he is saying is that Apple has consistently not acted in the interest of consumers. Therefore, why should we take their privacy claims seriously? Remember when they attacked journalists, for example? How about the corporate culture of secrecy? That is far from consumer friendly.
- istingray 5y agoImportant adjustment -- privacy and surveillance are what's on a spectrum. Security is not the inverse of privacy.
- NikolaNovak 5y agoI was going to say; I'm aware security is always a compromise (vs speed or ease of use or budget etc), but I've never seen that privacy and security are the natural opposites / inverses in same spectrum.
- istingray 5y ago"Security vs privacy" is unfortunately the most common mistake made about privacy discussions.
- akiselev 5y agoMy daily drivers are an Android and an iPhone while my PinePhone gathers dust, so I don't understand what this has to do with my privacy choices. Nor did I say it to act superior or imply that no one had a right to complain. This is merely a reminder that Apple was founded in and most HN readers live in the United States, a nation founded on the idea that, without checks and balances, any power that can be abused will be abused. Without something legally binding and someone holding Apple to their word, their privacy stance was never going to be anything more than a temporary ploy in their ultimate goal: to make more money.
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- b0tzzzzzzman 5y agoI have told people so?