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There is also an argument that the cloud scanning is a few bit flips away from allowing random Apple employees from looking through all my photos while on devic
by slg 5y ago
There is also an argument that the cloud scanning is a few bit flips away from allowing random Apple employees from looking through all my photos while on device scanning means they have to be specifically looking for certain content. On device scanning is probably preferred if one's fear is someone stealing their nudes, which is one of the more common fears about photo privacy and one that Apple has already shown is a problem for them.
- Wowfunhappy 5y agoSure, but I don't particularly care because I don't upload sensitive photos to iCloud. As I'd recommend to everyone else. If it's on someone else's computer, it's not yours. But, I suppose my iPhone was never really mine either. I knew that, I just never quite put two and two together...
- slg 5y ago>Sure, but I don't particularly care because I don't upload sensitive photos to iCloud So you are saying you have nothing to fear because you aren't hiding anything? Is this a tacit admission that you don't want them scanning your phone for CSAM because they will find something? I'm obviously not seriously accusing you of anything, just pointing out how your line of argument applies equally to privacy whether on the cloud or on your device.
- Wowfunhappy 5y ago> So you are saying you have nothing to fear because you aren't hiding anything? No, I'm saying that if you're hiding something, maybe don't give it to someone else.
- slg 5y ago"I'm not giving my photos to anyone. I am just taking photos on my phone and Apple is automatically backing them up to iCloud. I have no idea how that feature was turned on or how to turn it off." ~ most normal people. People here too often only think of these issues from the perspective of the type of person who browses HN. Apple is thinking of this from the perspective of an average iPhone users.
- Wowfunhappy 5y agoOr, perhaps many regular users do understand the separation, and that's why this issue is getting so much attention.
- slg 5y agoIs this issue getting much attention outside of tech circles? I have seen a few news stories here or there, but nothing major. I have not heard a word about it from any of my non-tech friends or from the non-tech people I follow on social media. Meanwhile people on HN are acting as if this is one of the biggest stories of the year with multiple posts on it every day. There is a huge separation in the importance that the tech community puts on the general concept of privacy while the average person rarely worries about it.
- Wowfunhappy 5y agoI mean, absent a gallop poll there's really no way to know, but we were discussing this at my office today, and I work at a graphic design studio, not a software development firm.
- jdavis703 5y agoYou have to configure iCloud backups when setting up a phone for the first time. Someone who is non-technical, but privacy conscious isn’t going to do this.
- slg 5y agoI don't know why technical people assume non-technical people fully understand the privacy implications of certain technology.
- grishka 5y agoWhen you choose to use a cloud (aka someone else's computer), you trust that someone else, because you're no longer in control of what happens to your data once it leaves your device. That's a sane expectation, anyway. But you don't expect your own device to behave against your interests.