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I’m not worried about the immediate side effects. I’m 25. I’m worried about the side effects that don’t show for 20+ years. I’ve gotten COVID so I don’t feel l

I’m not worried about the immediate side effects. I’m 25. I’m worried about the side effects that don’t show for 20+ years. I’ve gotten COVID so I don’t feel like I need the vaccine. I have a REAL problem with mandatory vaccination for a virus I’ve already gotten and would gladly contract again if it means I get to retain my agency.

DanHulton 5y ago
But you're not worried about the side effects of COVID that will develop over 20+ years? It's not like COVID is any safer or well-understood. This is a false dichotomy.
- blitz_skull 5y ago
  I never said I wasn’t worried about the side effects of getting COVID in 20 years. I didn’t have a choice to get COVID, I DO have a choice to not get the vaccine.
  - effie 5y ago
    Exactly, somehow this simple fact eludes many vaccinators on HN.
- artursapek 5y ago
  COVID doesn’t get to bypass all safety barriers in your body
  - GekkePrutser 5y ago
    It does, that's why it's making people sick and in many cases dead.
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avalys 5y ago
You already got COVID, so you're already stuck with whatever long-term side effects there are from COVID infection and probably have some immunity already, so I understand your desire to not take additional risk by getting the vaccine. But for someone who has not yet had COVID, why would you suggest they should be uniquely concerned about hypothetical unknown long-term side effects from the vaccine, and not COVID itself?
- blitz_skull 5y ago
  I never suggested someone else should be uniquely concerned about the vaccine—be concerned about ALL the unknowns! Lol That being said, my biggest problem is the proposed loss of agency. Let me be the master of my fate.
  - effie 5y ago
    We can't be master of our fates, because if there is fate, it's determined. But we can decide to think and act as free persons nevertheless. We should ignore nonsensical / non-constitutional edicts and go on with our lives.
  - bellyfullofbac 5y ago
    I wonder how much society has to tolerate that. You want to live in society? Well, sorry, that involves some loss of agency. You want to be the master? Then why is there an entitlement that the grocery store, etc, has to serve you?
    - blitz_skull 5y ago
      I think you’re intentionally misinterpreting my statement. Since we know the vaccine doesn’t prevent you from contracting or spreading the virus—it should not be mandated. Period. If this actually had to do with people’s safety, an argument COULD be made. But that’s not the case, so I think it’s preposterous that would should be forced to take a vaccine that’s solely for one’s “own good”. As an aside, any group-think situation where people start being concerned about “my own safety” is not an experiment I’d like to be a part of.
artursapek 5y ago
People are downvoting you because this reality is too scary for them to confront, so they’d rather plug their ears

DanHulton 5y ago

But you're not worried about the side effects of COVID that will develop over 20+ years? It's not like COVID is any safer or well-understood. This is a false dichotomy.

blitz_skull 5y ago
I never said I wasn’t worried about the side effects of getting COVID in 20 years. I didn’t have a choice to get COVID, I DO have a choice to not get the vaccine.
- effie 5y ago
  Exactly, somehow this simple fact eludes many vaccinators on HN.
artursapek 5y ago
COVID doesn’t get to bypass all safety barriers in your body
- GekkePrutser 5y ago
  It does, that's why it's making people sick and in many cases dead.
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avalys 5y ago

You already got COVID, so you're already stuck with whatever long-term side effects there are from COVID infection and probably have some immunity already, so I understand your desire to not take additional risk by getting the vaccine. But for someone who has not yet had COVID, why would you suggest they should be uniquely concerned about hypothetical unknown long-term side effects from the vaccine, and not COVID itself?

blitz_skull 5y ago
I never suggested someone else should be uniquely concerned about the vaccine—be concerned about ALL the unknowns! Lol That being said, my biggest problem is the proposed loss of agency. Let me be the master of my fate.
- effie 5y ago
  We can't be master of our fates, because if there is fate, it's determined. But we can decide to think and act as free persons nevertheless. We should ignore nonsensical / non-constitutional edicts and go on with our lives.
- bellyfullofbac 5y ago
  I wonder how much society has to tolerate that. You want to live in society? Well, sorry, that involves some loss of agency. You want to be the master? Then why is there an entitlement that the grocery store, etc, has to serve you?
  - blitz_skull 5y ago
    I think you’re intentionally misinterpreting my statement. Since we know the vaccine doesn’t prevent you from contracting or spreading the virus—it should not be mandated. Period. If this actually had to do with people’s safety, an argument COULD be made. But that’s not the case, so I think it’s preposterous that would should be forced to take a vaccine that’s solely for one’s “own good”. As an aside, any group-think situation where people start being concerned about “my own safety” is not an experiment I’d like to be a part of.

artursapek 5y ago

People are downvoting you because this reality is too scary for them to confront, so they’d rather plug their ears