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I haven't seen much discussion of the changes to search, which seem a little dystopian as well: > Siri and Search are also being updated to intervene when user

I haven't seen much discussion of the changes to search, which seem a little dystopian as well: > Siri and Search are also being updated to intervene when users perform searches for queries related to CSAM. These interventions will explain to users that interest in this topic is harmful and problematic, and provide resources from partners to get help with this issue. Will apple.cn be extending this to searches about "tank man" or a certain stuffed bear? Oh bother...

nullc 5y ago
I noticed google doing this too while trying to look up case law related to the discussion of apple's spyware. Related google searches popped up a big intimidating notice: "WARNING Child sexual abuse imagery is illegal". The obvious implication is that your searches are being reported to some unaccountable authority. I have no doubt that this creates a chilling effect against public discussion about these practices.
- sandworm101 5y ago
  Lol. I've gotten these many times. It turns out that an acronym related to my work is one typo away from a listed child porn term/site. If google is reporting these then I am already on thier list.
  - shapefrog 5y ago
    > It turns out that an acronym related to my work is one typo away Ah that old chestnut, I am sure they have heard many worse excuses than that one.
    - sandworm101 5y ago
      There is an old Drew Carry joke: "I wanted to get the Playboy channel, but I already have the cartoon network and if you have both they put you on a special list."
  - deleted 5y ago
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  - remuskaos 5y ago
    In particle physics, it is interesting which fundamental interactions conserve parity, charge parity and time reversion. Interactions that do not conserve one or multiple parties are called "parity violating". In this context, in some interactions combined charge and parity conservation is violated, which is unfortunately named CP violation.
    - account42 5y ago
      Better not look up anything about /usr/bin/cp. For the Hugin panarama suite one tool to find control points is named cpfind. Civil Protections in Half-Life 2 is also often abbreviated CP. IIRC the are even CP violations mentioned in the Overwatch announcements, which would fit in with the series' physics references. So many minefields...
      - zerd 5y ago
        Or look up how to handle kill process or sacrifice child.
- sdflhasjd 5y ago
  You used to get that when searching for PDO (PHP Data Objects) documentation on Google. I think it got fixed some time in 2019 though.
- PretzelPirate 5y ago
  The warning suggests that your search might return child sexual abuse imagery, which is odd. If Google was doing its job, no search results would contain CP and they wouldn’t need to warn anyone. They probably shouldn’t warn anyone since all it does is alert people who might be looking for CP that they are being watched, and scares anyone who isn’t looking but their search terms have similar words. The outcome is overall worse than if no alert popped up.
shocks 5y ago
This is interesting because it’s trivial to use someone else’s Siri and make it search whatever you want. (I can trigger my partners with 75% reliability if I just speak in a high pitched voice)
- LegitShady 5y ago
  then they literally have a recording of you saying it...
  - bryanrasmussen 5y ago
    in a voice that doesn't sound like their voice. on edit: changed your to their
- akira2501 5y ago
  Well, it would certainly be an interesting moment in broadcast if someone were to ask millions of Siri's everywhere to search for "the forbidden things."
Spivak 5y ago
If you search anything related to eating disorders on Tumblr you’re presented with basically the same thing with links to help resources. MyFitnessPal pops up a similar message if you log less than 1000 calories in a day. Same with topics related to suicide on any search engine. There is a very real bright line difference popping up a “please get help” message for self destructive behaviors and arbitrary censorship. Source: have eating disorder and consumed thinspo and proana content in my teens.

nullc 5y ago

I noticed google doing this too while trying to look up case law related to the discussion of apple's spyware. Related google searches popped up a big intimidating notice: "WARNING Child sexual abuse imagery is illegal". The obvious implication is that your searches are being reported to some unaccountable authority. I have no doubt that this creates a chilling effect against public discussion about these practices.

sandworm101 5y ago
Lol. I've gotten these many times. It turns out that an acronym related to my work is one typo away from a listed child porn term/site. If google is reporting these then I am already on thier list.
- shapefrog 5y ago
  > It turns out that an acronym related to my work is one typo away Ah that old chestnut, I am sure they have heard many worse excuses than that one.
  - sandworm101 5y ago
    There is an old Drew Carry joke: "I wanted to get the Playboy channel, but I already have the cartoon network and if you have both they put you on a special list."
- deleted 5y ago
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- remuskaos 5y ago
  In particle physics, it is interesting which fundamental interactions conserve parity, charge parity and time reversion. Interactions that do not conserve one or multiple parties are called "parity violating". In this context, in some interactions combined charge and parity conservation is violated, which is unfortunately named CP violation.
  - account42 5y ago
    Better not look up anything about /usr/bin/cp. For the Hugin panarama suite one tool to find control points is named cpfind. Civil Protections in Half-Life 2 is also often abbreviated CP. IIRC the are even CP violations mentioned in the Overwatch announcements, which would fit in with the series' physics references. So many minefields...
    - zerd 5y ago
      Or look up how to handle kill process or sacrifice child.
sdflhasjd 5y ago
You used to get that when searching for PDO (PHP Data Objects) documentation on Google. I think it got fixed some time in 2019 though.
PretzelPirate 5y ago
The warning suggests that your search might return child sexual abuse imagery, which is odd. If Google was doing its job, no search results would contain CP and they wouldn’t need to warn anyone. They probably shouldn’t warn anyone since all it does is alert people who might be looking for CP that they are being watched, and scares anyone who isn’t looking but their search terms have similar words. The outcome is overall worse than if no alert popped up.

shocks 5y ago

This is interesting because it’s trivial to use someone else’s Siri and make it search whatever you want. (I can trigger my partners with 75% reliability if I just speak in a high pitched voice)

LegitShady 5y ago
then they literally have a recording of you saying it...
- bryanrasmussen 5y ago
  in a voice that doesn't sound like their voice. on edit: changed your to their
akira2501 5y ago
Well, it would certainly be an interesting moment in broadcast if someone were to ask millions of Siri's everywhere to search for "the forbidden things."

Spivak 5y ago

If you search anything related to eating disorders on Tumblr you’re presented with basically the same thing with links to help resources. MyFitnessPal pops up a similar message if you log less than 1000 calories in a day. Same with topics related to suicide on any search engine. There is a very real bright line difference popping up a “please get help” message for self destructive behaviors and arbitrary censorship. Source: have eating disorder and consumed thinspo and proana content in my teens.