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Keep in mind, this manual review only happens after Apple’s system detects multiple occurrences of matches. Until that point, no human is alerted of matches nor

Keep in mind, this manual review only happens after Apple’s system detects multiple occurrences of matches. Until that point, no human is alerted of matches nor does anyone see how many matches there have been. In a TechCrunch interview Apple said that they are going after larger targets that are worth NCMEC’s time.

zionic 5y ago
Parents take a lot of photos of their kid. Like, lots.
- simondotau 5y ago
  How many of them include erect adult penises and active participation in sex acts? Apple's on-device list of hashes only includes images which have been classified "A1" under the CSAM categorisation scale. If any other photographs are accidental hash collisions to these images, it's going to be pretty damn obvious to the human reviewer.
  - gambiting 5y ago
    The problem with all of this, is that it's about to trust. We're are supposed to trust apple's algorithm to avoid false positives, we're supposed to trust apple that even with false positives there's some threshold to cross, and then supposed to trust apple that their employees will do a good job verifying the pictures, and then(most imporantly) trust that a giant american corporation won't honor secretive state requests to start scanning our phones for other data. I just don't have that trust. Obviously I think that protecting children is an incredibly important thing to be doing, but I don't trust apple to be running such a system(I do trust them maybe a tiny bit more than I'd trust google in this case, but ultimately I'd rather this system didn't exist at all).
    - simondotau 5y ago
      I trust that Apple knows that an actual, real world false accusation will make this week's media challenges look like a fleabite.
jamesu 5y ago
"Multiple occurrences of matches" could have definitely been an issue for a friend of mine. When they took a picture, they'd often go for the "blitz the subject with the camera" approach, then never ended up deleting all the bad pictures because they had hoarding tendencies.

zionic 5y ago

Parents take a lot of photos of their kid. Like, lots.

simondotau 5y ago
How many of them include erect adult penises and active participation in sex acts? Apple's on-device list of hashes only includes images which have been classified "A1" under the CSAM categorisation scale. If any other photographs are accidental hash collisions to these images, it's going to be pretty damn obvious to the human reviewer.
- gambiting 5y ago
  The problem with all of this, is that it's about to trust. We're are supposed to trust apple's algorithm to avoid false positives, we're supposed to trust apple that even with false positives there's some threshold to cross, and then supposed to trust apple that their employees will do a good job verifying the pictures, and then(most imporantly) trust that a giant american corporation won't honor secretive state requests to start scanning our phones for other data. I just don't have that trust. Obviously I think that protecting children is an incredibly important thing to be doing, but I don't trust apple to be running such a system(I do trust them maybe a tiny bit more than I'd trust google in this case, but ultimately I'd rather this system didn't exist at all).
  - simondotau 5y ago
    I trust that Apple knows that an actual, real world false accusation will make this week's media challenges look like a fleabite.

jamesu 5y ago

"Multiple occurrences of matches" could have definitely been an issue for a friend of mine. When they took a picture, they'd often go for the "blitz the subject with the camera" approach, then never ended up deleting all the bad pictures because they had hoarding tendencies.