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Only semi-good reason is it would enable E2E encryption in the cloud while still allowing detection of CSAM.
by czzr 5y ago
Only semi-good reason is it would enable E2E encryption in the cloud while still allowing detection of CSAM.
- roody15 5y agoExcept despite this being repeated over and over… Apple has not said anything about E2E
- czzr 5y agoAs I said, the design enables this, if Apple chose to do it. It remains to be seen if they will.
- zionic 5y agoThe design more plausible enables total device surveillance than questionable iCloud Backups. (I refuse to call a backdoored setup E2EE)
- zepto 5y agoThat’s silly. The design is so narrowly tailored to scan for CSAM that nobody can use it for anything else.
- FabHK 5y agoIt all depends on what perceptual hashes you use. If Apple can institute a process whereby those are tied to the OS version, but not to the region, then it would be impossible to impose jurisdiction-specific exceptions.
- zepto 5y ago> It all depends on what perceptual hashes you use. I’m talking about the mechanism as described, not a hypothetical. > If Apple can institute a process whereby those are tied to the OS version, but not to the region, then it would be impossible to impose jurisdiction-specific exceptions. As it is the mechanism they have built only works in the US jurisdiction.
- FabHK 5y ago> As it is the mechanism they have built only works in the US jurisdiction. That is very worrisome. How do they want to withstand political pressure then to make the database of "bad hashes" dependent on the jurisdiction if they've already made the feature dependent on the jurisdiction?
- zepto 5y agoPresumably they’ll just say, we built a child abuse prevention mechanism and we have no intention of using it for anything else.
- fsflover 5y ago> As it is the mechanism they have built only works in the US jurisdiction. How do you know? I think it's just implemented in the US. Nothing stops Apple to implement it elsewhere.
- shuckles 5y agoThey have said the mechanism is global in both their FAQ and in an interview with Tech Crunch. They have no way to target a database to a region or device.
- macintux 5y agoApple almost never talks about features like that until they’re ready, so while you’re correct, it doesn’t mean much.
- wyager 5y agoIt's been leaked before that Apple folded under pressure from the FBI not to add iCloud encryption for images.
- ummonk 5y agoThat would seem to back up the theory that they plan to roll out E2EE and are adding on-device scanning first to enable that.
- Clubber 5y agoWith all this backlash, now would probably be a tactically good time.
- zepto 5y agoIt’s also being repeated over and over that apple is doing this so they can later do some more evil scanning. They haven’t said anything about that either.
- nullc 5y agoApple is free to enable E2E encryption today, without the backdoor.