Oh I know. I'm being downvoted to oblivion already— that's the reality of HN being US-centric (I'm Canadian). But my point is less about taking a stand on any

Oh I know. I'm being downvoted to oblivion already— that's the reality of HN being US-centric (I'm Canadian). But my point is less about taking a stand on any of one of those issues and more just that US-based advocates making slippery-slope arguments often resort to wide-eyed speculation about the future rather than evidence because they're unaware of or unwilling to acknowledge what the realities are elsewhere in the world.