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Sure, sounds like surveillance to me. It’s pretty unavoidable if you have an HTTP server that collects logs (all of them), but I could choose not to participate

by Lammy 5y ago

Sure, sounds like surveillance to me. It’s pretty unavoidable if you have an HTTP server that collects logs (all of them), but I could choose not to participate here if it bothered me. What does a community forum’s privacy policy have to do with me not wanting to recommend desktop software that has surveillance silently in the background? Is it just supposed to be a “gotcha” that disqualifies me from having a nuanced opinion on the subject?

automato 5y ago
not at all, i'm simply pointing out the irony of you recommending people not use software that has telemetry on a platform that has the same telemetry. i've personally refused to use etcher for a while, sticking with dd, then i got tired of slow speeds and downloaded it, blocked all its home-ringing with LittleSnitch and haven't had a problem since. There are ways around any spying, i'm just glad it doesn't install any bloatware like 90% of the "free" apps out there.
- Lammy 5y ago
  I too love some delicious irony but personally don’t see it in this case unless I disregard all context besides “their privacy policies have some of the same words”. It feels pretty different to me to compare software analytics to a thing like HN that can’t just exist offline on my PC. I know what I’m getting when I have to make network requests to read a web page, but Etcher only uses it to phone home private info like “I’m writing Ubluntu-13.37-Heavenly-Heifer.iso to a 16GB volume named ‘KINGSTON’ with serial number <whatever>”.
  - automato 5y ago
    > I’m writing Ubluntu-13.37-Heavenly-Heifer.iso to a 16GB volume named ‘KINGSTON’ with serial number <whatever> Where in the code did you see this? I can't find that in their source. I see they show a "banner" with this url: https://www.balena.io/etcher/success-banner?borderTop=false&darkBackground=true https://www.balena.io/etcher/success-banner?borderTop=false&... show some featured apps: 'https://assets.balena.io/etcher-featured/index.html https://assets.balena.io/etcher-featured/index.html'

by Lammy 5y ago

automato 5y ago

not at all, i'm simply pointing out the irony of you recommending people not use software that has telemetry on a platform that has the same telemetry. i've personally refused to use etcher for a while, sticking with dd, then i got tired of slow speeds and downloaded it, blocked all its home-ringing with LittleSnitch and haven't had a problem since. There are ways around any spying, i'm just glad it doesn't install any bloatware like 90% of the "free" apps out there.

Lammy 5y ago
I too love some delicious irony but personally don’t see it in this case unless I disregard all context besides “their privacy policies have some of the same words”. It feels pretty different to me to compare software analytics to a thing like HN that can’t just exist offline on my PC. I know what I’m getting when I have to make network requests to read a web page, but Etcher only uses it to phone home private info like “I’m writing Ubluntu-13.37-Heavenly-Heifer.iso to a 16GB volume named ‘KINGSTON’ with serial number <whatever>”.
- automato 5y ago
  > I’m writing Ubluntu-13.37-Heavenly-Heifer.iso to a 16GB volume named ‘KINGSTON’ with serial number <whatever> Where in the code did you see this? I can't find that in their source. I see they show a "banner" with this url: https://www.balena.io/etcher/success-banner?borderTop=false&darkBackground=true https://www.balena.io/etcher/success-banner?borderTop=false&... show some featured apps: 'https://assets.balena.io/etcher-featured/index.html https://assets.balena.io/etcher-featured/index.html'