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>Food shortage is going to cause riots in US, Canada, and EU for sure The US (along with France) can easily supply all the food they need to its citizens. Alon

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>Food shortage is going to cause riots in US, Canada, and EU for sure The US (along with France) can easily supply all the food they need to its citizens. Along with the alliances with Mexico and Canada, the US is not going to have food shortages, much less riots. China, on the other hand, is definitely screwed on this front. All of its neighbors are either outright enemies or begrudging allies. As the global order continues to collapse, China will see constraints on its shipping routes that will lead to shortages of key goods. The food shortages won't hit as bad, though, since the population is declining. Just not fast enough, unfortunately.

RegnisGnaw 5y ago
Say that for US, Canada, France, and Mexico in 20 years. Do you want to bet on that?
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eunos 5y ago
Outside of meat, China is self sufficient, calculated by calories produced.
- RegnisGnaw 5y ago
  Now, that's now. So in 10-20 years, there's going to be impact due to climate change. Other countries are going to cut back on feed/food exports. China is self sufficient except meat, which is fine now. So in 20 years, your going to tell the people in the cities who are used to eating meat daily that they are going down to meat only 2 days a week. Is your rich fuerdai going to be totally content with that?
yogthos 5y ago
extreme weather is already affecting food production in US and it's only gonna get worse https://www.agupdate.com/livestockroundup/markets/corn-projections-bleak-as-much-of-the-midwest-drought-continues/article_d2caa53a-d808-11eb-ba27-2f7cddf66b43.html https://www.agupdate.com/livestockroundup/markets/corn-proje... some other examples of crop failures currently happening https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/2019/06/midwest-rain-climate-change-wrecking-corn-soy-crops/ https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/2019/06/midwe... https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/19/extreme-heat-wave-hits-us-farmers-already-suffering-from-flooding.html https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/19/extreme-heat-wave-hits-us-fa... https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/may/15/australia-to-import-wheat-for-first-time-in-12-years-as-drought-eats-into-grain-production https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/may/15/austr... https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/jul/20/crop-failure-and-bankruptcy-threaten-farmers-as-drought-grips-europe https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/jul/20/crop-fai... https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2019-10-02/low-rice-crop-leads-to-sunrice-job-losses/11566748?pfmredir=sm https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2019-10-02/low-rice-crop-lead... https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/climate-and-people/climate-change-could-cut-fruit-production-almost-third-study/ https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/climate-and-people... https://phys.org/news/2019-12-climate-whammy-corn-belt.html https://phys.org/news/2019-12-climate-whammy-corn-belt.html https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/11/12/britain-facing-potato-shortage-failure-dredge-rivers-led-flooding/ https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/11/12/britain-facing-p... https://weather.com/science/environment/news/2019-08-01-drought-dam-drive-mekong-river-to-lowest-level-in-100-years https://weather.com/science/environment/news/2019-08-01-drou... https://phys.org/news/2020-01-atlantic-circulation-collapse-british-crop.html https://phys.org/news/2020-01-atlantic-circulation-collapse-... https://phys.org/news/2019-12-climate-threat-global-breadbaskets.html https://phys.org/news/2019-12-climate-threat-global-breadbas... https://phys.org/news/2019-12-large-atmospheric-jet-stream-global.html https://phys.org/news/2019-12-large-atmospheric-jet-stream-g... and here are some scientific studies projecting future crop failures: Schlenker and Roberts, 2009. Nonlinear temperature effects indicate severe damages to US crop yields under climate change. PNAS, 106(37), pp.15594-15598 https://www.pnas.org/content/106/37/15594.full https://www.pnas.org/content/106/37/15594.full Mora et al, 2015. Suitable days for plant growth disappear under projected climate change: Potential human and biotic vulnerability. PLoS bio, 13(6), p.e1002167 https://journals.plos.org/plosbiology/article?id=10.1371/journal.pbio.1002167 https://journals.plos.org/plosbiology/article?id=10.1371/jou... Schauberger et al, 2017. Consistent negative response of US crops to high temperatures in observations and crop models. Nature Comms, 8, p.13931. https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms13931 https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms13931 Sakschewski et al, 2014. Feeding 10 billion people under climate change: How large is the production gap of current agricultural systems?. Ecological modelling, 288, pp.103-111 https://www.researchgate.net/publication/263472623_Feeding_10_billion_people_under_climate_change_How_large_is_the_production_gap_of_current_agricultural_systems https://www.researchgate.net/publication/263472623_Feeding_1... Liang et al, 2017. Determining climate effects on US total agricultural productivity. PNAS, 114(12), pp.E2285-E2292 https://www.pnas.org/content/114/12/E2285?collection= https://www.pnas.org/content/114/12/E2285?collection=

RegnisGnaw 5y ago

Say that for US, Canada, France, and Mexico in 20 years. Do you want to bet on that?

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eunos 5y ago

Outside of meat, China is self sufficient, calculated by calories produced.

RegnisGnaw 5y ago
Now, that's now. So in 10-20 years, there's going to be impact due to climate change. Other countries are going to cut back on feed/food exports. China is self sufficient except meat, which is fine now. So in 20 years, your going to tell the people in the cities who are used to eating meat daily that they are going down to meat only 2 days a week. Is your rich fuerdai going to be totally content with that?

yogthos 5y ago

extreme weather is already affecting food production in US and it's only gonna get worse https://www.agupdate.com/livestockroundup/markets/corn-projections-bleak-as-much-of-the-midwest-drought-continues/article_d2caa53a-d808-11eb-ba27-2f7cddf66b43.html https://www.agupdate.com/livestockroundup/markets/corn-proje... some other examples of crop failures currently happening https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/2019/06/midwest-rain-climate-change-wrecking-corn-soy-crops/ https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/2019/06/midwe... https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/19/extreme-heat-wave-hits-us-farmers-already-suffering-from-flooding.html https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/19/extreme-heat-wave-hits-us-fa... https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/may/15/australia-to-import-wheat-for-first-time-in-12-years-as-drought-eats-into-grain-production https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/may/15/austr... https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/jul/20/crop-failure-and-bankruptcy-threaten-farmers-as-drought-grips-europe https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/jul/20/crop-fai... https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2019-10-02/low-rice-crop-leads-to-sunrice-job-losses/11566748?pfmredir=sm https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2019-10-02/low-rice-crop-lead... https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/climate-and-people/climate-change-could-cut-fruit-production-almost-third-study/ https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/climate-and-people... https://phys.org/news/2019-12-climate-whammy-corn-belt.html https://phys.org/news/2019-12-climate-whammy-corn-belt.html https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/11/12/britain-facing-potato-shortage-failure-dredge-rivers-led-flooding/ https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/11/12/britain-facing-p... https://weather.com/science/environment/news/2019-08-01-drought-dam-drive-mekong-river-to-lowest-level-in-100-years https://weather.com/science/environment/news/2019-08-01-drou... https://phys.org/news/2020-01-atlantic-circulation-collapse-british-crop.html https://phys.org/news/2020-01-atlantic-circulation-collapse-... https://phys.org/news/2019-12-climate-threat-global-breadbaskets.html https://phys.org/news/2019-12-climate-threat-global-breadbas... https://phys.org/news/2019-12-large-atmospheric-jet-stream-global.html https://phys.org/news/2019-12-large-atmospheric-jet-stream-g... and here are some scientific studies projecting future crop failures: Schlenker and Roberts, 2009. Nonlinear temperature effects indicate severe damages to US crop yields under climate change. PNAS, 106(37), pp.15594-15598 https://www.pnas.org/content/106/37/15594.full https://www.pnas.org/content/106/37/15594.full Mora et al, 2015. Suitable days for plant growth disappear under projected climate change: Potential human and biotic vulnerability. PLoS bio, 13(6), p.e1002167 https://journals.plos.org/plosbiology/article?id=10.1371/journal.pbio.1002167 https://journals.plos.org/plosbiology/article?id=10.1371/jou... Schauberger et al, 2017. Consistent negative response of US crops to high temperatures in observations and crop models. Nature Comms, 8, p.13931. https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms13931 https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms13931 Sakschewski et al, 2014. Feeding 10 billion people under climate change: How large is the production gap of current agricultural systems?. Ecological modelling, 288, pp.103-111 https://www.researchgate.net/publication/263472623_Feeding_10_billion_people_under_climate_change_How_large_is_the_production_gap_of_current_agricultural_systems https://www.researchgate.net/publication/263472623_Feeding_1... Liang et al, 2017. Determining climate effects on US total agricultural productivity. PNAS, 114(12), pp.E2285-E2292 https://www.pnas.org/content/114/12/E2285?collection= https://www.pnas.org/content/114/12/E2285?collection=