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By the way I always loved Swing interfaces and always felt like they are incredibly cozy, emotionally warm and also tidy at the same time. Here[1] is a picture

By the way I always loved Swing interfaces and always felt like they are incredibly cozy, emotionally warm and also tidy at the same time. Here[1] is a picture of Oracle EBS. To me it seems beautiful (literally). And if I look at the more classic Swing style here[2] I almost feel urge to run around naked and scream about how damn beautiful it is. I certainly want every app I use and the OS itself to be entirely in this design and I would even pay just for that (because I feel like that would boost my psychological well-being and productivity). So, given our perception of this same UI is on the opposite extremes I conclude this is highly subjective. [1] https://cdn.app.compendium.com/uploads/user/e7c690e8-6ff9-102a-ac6d-e4aebca50425/c3cad7e2-7cbe-4b55-882e-5169b97305c7/Image/648f8600b5a7411c7878e9323ce365e5/ebs_jws_mfss.png https://cdn.app.compendium.com/uploads/user/e7c690e8-6ff9-10... [2] https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E37069_01/html/E37073/figures/ide-profiling-tools.png https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E37069_01/html/E37073/figures/ide...

jhbadger 5y ago
While I don't share your enthusiasm for Swing, I understand it in principle because I really love the NextStep UI with its 3D effects and yet I've met people who think it is ugly.
crispyambulance 5y ago
Understood... yes, it's all subjective, even if that screenshot makes me vomit a little! FWIW, you aren't showing that text often overflows it's textbox and you can't actually see what's in it without putting your cursor in and moving it to the end of the text. They didn't have the concept of expanding to fit content back then? or maybe most corporations can't afford the oracle consultant that will do it for them ! :-) It's OK though, most of the time you can just export to excel with a few clicks. Of course, such applications require lots of tuning, and though they might have been cozy 20 years ago, they seem harsh and burdensome today because no one bothers to change stuff any more. You're just supposed to conform to it.
- lazide 5y ago
  You can totally expand to resize based on content, among many other tricks. That would require someone to care to do so, which is probably the bigger problem.

jhbadger 5y ago

While I don't share your enthusiasm for Swing, I understand it in principle because I really love the NextStep UI with its 3D effects and yet I've met people who think it is ugly.

crispyambulance 5y ago

Understood... yes, it's all subjective, even if that screenshot makes me vomit a little! FWIW, you aren't showing that text often overflows it's textbox and you can't actually see what's in it without putting your cursor in and moving it to the end of the text. They didn't have the concept of expanding to fit content back then? or maybe most corporations can't afford the oracle consultant that will do it for them ! :-) It's OK though, most of the time you can just export to excel with a few clicks. Of course, such applications require lots of tuning, and though they might have been cozy 20 years ago, they seem harsh and burdensome today because no one bothers to change stuff any more. You're just supposed to conform to it.

lazide 5y ago
You can totally expand to resize based on content, among many other tricks. That would require someone to care to do so, which is probably the bigger problem.