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really? like what? I like hn precisely because of its minimalistic approach.

oblio 5y ago
Have they fixed quote wrapping?
stackbutterflow 5y ago
Pagination. I'm sure most people don't know that you can click on "More replies" at the bottom of the page to read more comments. At least I didn't know at first and spent many years reading only the first page. Edit: It's actually "More" not "More replies".
- giancarlostoro 5y ago
  Really? Interesting, also explains why some mods (I think dang does it) make a stickied post explaining this in big enough threads. Maybe putting a message at the top of threads with multiple pages with its own div / table style would suffice.
- nsizx 5y ago
  I have never understood this. On websites, paginators are always at the end of pages. This one is there and it clearly says what it does. How can someone miss it?
  - sokoloff 5y ago
    The only thing I can think of is that pagination didn't originally exist, so users could have "learned" that if Ctrl-F didn't find a term, that it didn't exist in the comments (rather than didn't exist on this page of comments). That seems incredibly minor to me, though.
  - krapp 5y ago
    Other sites design their UI to stand out. Paginators may be bolded, or in a different font. And there will usually be other visual cues like a "Page x of y" somewhere. Hacker News' primary color scheme is minimalist grey on grey, specifically so the UI doesn't distract from the content. As a result, people here develop feature blindness to the point that dang has to remind people that pagination even exists in most paginated threads.
  - stackbutterflow 5y ago
    Usually there are two buttons "Prev-Next" or something like "Page: 1,2,3,4..". And I just checked, it's actually just "More". Maybe it's me but it's not immediately obvious that a link (not even a button) called "More" means that you can go to the next page. Add to that that HN is so lightweight I just assumed all messages were loaded at once.
  - remram 5y ago
    I think people ctrl+F for something and then post a comment "I can't believe no one mentioned X...". People don't usually reach the bottom of the first page when they go through comments, because the first page is quite big, so they never have to see the pagination (though they do need to know it's not the complete view).
bennyp101 5y ago
Option to set colours for more than just the top bar and … that’s about it
- nick__m 5y ago
  I use stylish to changes fonts and colors, here's my custom stylesheet * { color: #F3F1A1 !important; background-color: #000 !important; } body > center > table > tbody > tr:first-child * { background-color: #073642 !important; } body > center > table > tbody > tr:first-child * a:hover { background: #002b36 !important; } code, pre, input, textarea { background: #073642 !important; } a, .pagetop, .hnname a:visited, .rank, .athing { color: #b58900 !important; } .commtext { font-size: 125%; } .title { font-size: 112%; } .subtext { font-size:75%; } .subtext *, .sitebit, .sitestr, .subtext:nth-child(2) { color: #9e7800 !important; } a:visited, a:visited span { color: #717600 !important; } a:hover, a:hover span { background: #073642 !important; } P.s. I am a slightly colorblind, please don't judge my colors palette
krapp 5y ago
a lot of people complain about the font size, for instance.
- iamwil 5y ago
  A strange thing to complain about, given browsers can override with user settings, if not user plugins.
  - krapp 5y ago
    One could argue that if your text-based forum, which is designed to be read, depends on browser settings and plugins to be readable to a vocal minority of users, then your design is deficient. Many people on HN would make that argument with regards to the need for browsers to have a reader mode. Ignoring modern web typography standards and keeping the default font size, line spacing and contrast such that it's uncomfortable for many people to read is an anti-feature. Particularly given the only reason it is the way it is is that pg didn't consider it worth caring about.

Have they fixed quote wrapping?

Pagination. I'm sure most people don't know that you can click on "More replies" at the bottom of the page to read more comments. At least I didn't know at first and spent many years reading only the first page. Edit: It's actually "More" not "More replies".

giancarlostoro 5y ago
Really? Interesting, also explains why some mods (I think dang does it) make a stickied post explaining this in big enough threads. Maybe putting a message at the top of threads with multiple pages with its own div / table style would suffice.
nsizx 5y ago
I have never understood this. On websites, paginators are always at the end of pages. This one is there and it clearly says what it does. How can someone miss it?
- sokoloff 5y ago
  The only thing I can think of is that pagination didn't originally exist, so users could have "learned" that if Ctrl-F didn't find a term, that it didn't exist in the comments (rather than didn't exist on this page of comments). That seems incredibly minor to me, though.
- krapp 5y ago
  Other sites design their UI to stand out. Paginators may be bolded, or in a different font. And there will usually be other visual cues like a "Page x of y" somewhere. Hacker News' primary color scheme is minimalist grey on grey, specifically so the UI doesn't distract from the content. As a result, people here develop feature blindness to the point that dang has to remind people that pagination even exists in most paginated threads.
- stackbutterflow 5y ago
  Usually there are two buttons "Prev-Next" or something like "Page: 1,2,3,4..". And I just checked, it's actually just "More". Maybe it's me but it's not immediately obvious that a link (not even a button) called "More" means that you can go to the next page. Add to that that HN is so lightweight I just assumed all messages were loaded at once.
- remram 5y ago
  I think people ctrl+F for something and then post a comment "I can't believe no one mentioned X...". People don't usually reach the bottom of the first page when they go through comments, because the first page is quite big, so they never have to see the pagination (though they do need to know it's not the complete view).

bennyp101 5y ago

Option to set colours for more than just the top bar and … that’s about it

nick__m 5y ago
I use stylish to changes fonts and colors, here's my custom stylesheet * { color: #F3F1A1 !important; background-color: #000 !important; } body > center > table > tbody > tr:first-child * { background-color: #073642 !important; } body > center > table > tbody > tr:first-child * a:hover { background: #002b36 !important; } code, pre, input, textarea { background: #073642 !important; } a, .pagetop, .hnname a:visited, .rank, .athing { color: #b58900 !important; } .commtext { font-size: 125%; } .title { font-size: 112%; } .subtext { font-size:75%; } .subtext *, .sitebit, .sitestr, .subtext:nth-child(2) { color: #9e7800 !important; } a:visited, a:visited span { color: #717600 !important; } a:hover, a:hover span { background: #073642 !important; } P.s. I am a slightly colorblind, please don't judge my colors palette

krapp 5y ago

a lot of people complain about the font size, for instance.

iamwil 5y ago
A strange thing to complain about, given browsers can override with user settings, if not user plugins.
- krapp 5y ago
  One could argue that if your text-based forum, which is designed to be read, depends on browser settings and plugins to be readable to a vocal minority of users, then your design is deficient. Many people on HN would make that argument with regards to the need for browsers to have a reader mode. Ignoring modern web typography standards and keeping the default font size, line spacing and contrast such that it's uncomfortable for many people to read is an anti-feature. Particularly given the only reason it is the way it is is that pg didn't consider it worth caring about.