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> My biggest point is that all the often cited success stories of a guerilla army winning against any modern military are all on a home turf vs invading army (a
by tekknik 5y ago
> My biggest point is that all the often cited success stories of a guerilla army winning against any modern military are all on a home turf vs invading army (and the guerilla forces are often heavily backed by outside forces or backed up by an actual regular army like in Vietnam).
Do you think the guns in civilian ownership are to be used for foreign wars? They are exactly for homeland invasion.
And who will back the US with arms? In the examples you gave it’s a richer country, or multiple, helping a poorer country. Who’s going to help the richest country in its death throes? What will be the benefit for all that aid should that nation fall? It’s better to pre-stage the weapons as that also serves to deter those that think the US is inadequately armed.
When presented with historical events supporting these claims your response is “cannot say with certainty”…
The interesting and terrifying part is, if I were China or Russia, I would be online trying to convince the US to disarm itself too.
- rtkwe 5y agoWe’re talking about armed US residents vs US government not a foreign invasion of the US.
- tekknik 5y agoWell the US gov fighting it’s citizens would be a war crime. And then hopefully the entirety of NATO would come down on them. A gov cannot use their own military force against their citizens. Full stop. And speaking as a veteran, my willingness to fight would be based on the side my beliefs were based upon. If the order was given to kill US citizens, it was an illegal order and the chain of command has been broken. All bets are off.
- rtkwe 5y agoThat's not really what NATO is for and it'd depend a lot on what the actual events looked like. If it's frameable as armed violent uprising/terrorism being controlled then it's much less likely to pull explicit foreign intervention and the prototypical '2A to protect against a tyrannical government usage' will almost definitely fit that bill.
- tekknik 5y agoCorrect, it depends on the size of the uprising. Further this is still an illegal order to kill US citizens. And with that once the order comes down chaos will ensue in the ranks.