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> Darts: Non-Facebook alternative for timeseries forecasting The title of the post seems very editorialised. First of all, being non-Facebook is hardly meanin

by jstx1 5y ago

> Darts: Non-Facebook alternative for timeseries forecasting The title of the post seems very editorialised. First of all, being non-Facebook is hardly meaningful when we talk about open source tools. Secondly, the project doesn't advertise itself as being non-Facebook, the poster has added this. And lastly, it's false - from the prerequisites in the readme: > Some of the models depend on prophet and torch

grzracz 5y ago
Using Prophet is optional :) To be an alternative doesn't mean to cast everything useful aside Edit: it's important to note that this is an alternative to Facebook Kats, I should've probably added this in the title and that's my bad
- deleted 5y ago
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- ___luigi 5y ago
  What do you mean by "optional"?. You are including it [2] [3] [4] as one of the options (not re-implementation of the original paper [1]) and it is one of the dependencies [4] (Prophet [5] is an open-source library built by facebook research). I think we should distinguish between science/open-source and policies when we mention open-source projects. *References*: [1]: https://facebook.github.io/prophet/#:~:text=Prophet%20is%20a%20procedure%20for,several%20seasons%20of%20historical%20data https://facebook.github.io/prophet/#:~:text=Prophet%20is%20a.... [2]: https://github.com/unit8co/darts/blob/master/darts/models/prophet.py#L13 https://github.com/unit8co/darts/blob/master/darts/models/pr... [3]: https://github.com/unit8co/darts/blob/master/setup.py#L12 https://github.com/unit8co/darts/blob/master/setup.py#L12 [4]: https://github.com/unit8co/darts/blob/master/requirements/prophet.txt https://github.com/unit8co/darts/blob/master/requirements/pr... [5]: https://github.com/facebook/prophet https://github.com/facebook/prophet
- CrazyStat 5y ago
  If I put out a buffet where some items are vegetarian and some are not, I don't advertise it as a vegetarian buffet with the excuse that the nonvegetarian foods are optional.
  - hklgny 5y ago
    That’s actually exactly how vegetarian buffets work. If you want to avoid Facebook with this library you can. That may not be the case with every library so folks who care about such things appreciate the callout. If you don’t care you don’t have to. What’s the problem?
    - yunohn 5y ago
      > That’s actually exactly how vegetarian buffets work. That’s just a buffet. When you use a qualifier like non/vegetarian, then the assumption is that the buffet would comprise of that.
    - ramraj07 5y ago
      Lol people will roast you if you say vegetarian buffet and serve meat there. As an apropos there’s a bomb vegan Korean buffet in Dallas.
    - dbecker 5y ago
      > That’s actually exactly how vegetarian buffets work. I'm going to go out on a limb and guess you don't visit many restaurants that advertise vegetarian buffets
      - mirekrusin 5y ago
        As a side note when in Brazil I felt like "vegetarian" food meant "just little bit of meat" and "caipirinha without sugar" meant "just don't mix (the layer of sugar at the bottom)" :) Did love it though.
- jldugger 5y ago
  > it's important to note that this is an alternative to Facebook Kats TIL about Kats. My assumption was that this was a reference to Prophet, which has not been treated favorably lately on HN.
dang 5y ago
Yes, that's offtopic and baity. We've changed the title now. (Submitted title was "Darts: Non-Facebook alternative for timeseries forecasting") Submitters: the site guidelines ask you to rewrite titles only to make them less baity. Less is not more! Not in this context at least. "Please use the original title, unless it is misleading or linkbait; don't editorialize." https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

by jstx1 5y ago

grzracz 5y ago

Using Prophet is optional :) To be an alternative doesn't mean to cast everything useful aside Edit: it's important to note that this is an alternative to Facebook Kats, I should've probably added this in the title and that's my bad

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___luigi 5y ago
What do you mean by "optional"?. You are including it [2] [3] [4] as one of the options (not re-implementation of the original paper [1]) and it is one of the dependencies [4] (Prophet [5] is an open-source library built by facebook research). I think we should distinguish between science/open-source and policies when we mention open-source projects. *References*: [1]: https://facebook.github.io/prophet/#:~:text=Prophet%20is%20a%20procedure%20for,several%20seasons%20of%20historical%20data https://facebook.github.io/prophet/#:~:text=Prophet%20is%20a.... [2]: https://github.com/unit8co/darts/blob/master/darts/models/prophet.py#L13 https://github.com/unit8co/darts/blob/master/darts/models/pr... [3]: https://github.com/unit8co/darts/blob/master/setup.py#L12 https://github.com/unit8co/darts/blob/master/setup.py#L12 [4]: https://github.com/unit8co/darts/blob/master/requirements/prophet.txt https://github.com/unit8co/darts/blob/master/requirements/pr... [5]: https://github.com/facebook/prophet https://github.com/facebook/prophet
CrazyStat 5y ago
If I put out a buffet where some items are vegetarian and some are not, I don't advertise it as a vegetarian buffet with the excuse that the nonvegetarian foods are optional.
- hklgny 5y ago
  That’s actually exactly how vegetarian buffets work. If you want to avoid Facebook with this library you can. That may not be the case with every library so folks who care about such things appreciate the callout. If you don’t care you don’t have to. What’s the problem?
  - yunohn 5y ago
    > That’s actually exactly how vegetarian buffets work. That’s just a buffet. When you use a qualifier like non/vegetarian, then the assumption is that the buffet would comprise of that.
  - ramraj07 5y ago
    Lol people will roast you if you say vegetarian buffet and serve meat there. As an apropos there’s a bomb vegan Korean buffet in Dallas.
  - dbecker 5y ago
    > That’s actually exactly how vegetarian buffets work. I'm going to go out on a limb and guess you don't visit many restaurants that advertise vegetarian buffets
    - mirekrusin 5y ago
      As a side note when in Brazil I felt like "vegetarian" food meant "just little bit of meat" and "caipirinha without sugar" meant "just don't mix (the layer of sugar at the bottom)" :) Did love it though.
jldugger 5y ago
> it's important to note that this is an alternative to Facebook Kats TIL about Kats. My assumption was that this was a reference to Prophet, which has not been treated favorably lately on HN.

dang 5y ago

Yes, that's offtopic and baity. We've changed the title now. (Submitted title was "Darts: Non-Facebook alternative for timeseries forecasting") Submitters: the site guidelines ask you to rewrite titles only to make them less baity. Less is not more! Not in this context at least. "Please use the original title, unless it is misleading or linkbait; don't editorialize." https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html