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I’ve given up on desktop e-mail clients. IMHO there’s currently no UI on the market that beats the Gmail UI.

by cpach 5y ago

mdp2021 5y ago
Which of course you improve upon need /I(rony) Edit: after I wrote the above line, I realized that many people use closed source software... Well ok then.
- cpach 5y ago
  Sorry, I don’t have great skills when it comes to UI design/UI programming.
  - mdp2021 5y ago
    Actually I was thinking of new features. For example, I developed a software application complementary to Thunderbird that used its DB to offer organizer functions (e.g. ranking of emails for task priority according to different parameters etc.) I realize that many people take what the market offers.
    - cpach 5y ago
      Features is one thing. But I’m quite sure that the Thunderbird team and I don’t share the same philosophy when it comes to UI.
- mkotowski 5y ago
  To be fair, even if all the software would be open source, one can not simply have both time and mastery level required to improve the programs one uses.
memling 5y ago
vivaldi, the successor to opera, has a client in beta. it's not as good as the old m2 client in my opinion but it's quite usable. my main gripes: keyboard navigation still isn't on par, the default is to top quote, no highlight to quote, and no encryption support. this latter doesn't bug me much because no one I know uses it. but it's fast with good search capabilities, automatic indexing, contacts, etc.
mugsie 5y ago
mutt and thunderbird are the only 2 clients I have ever found that can make mailing lists usable - gmail threaded view sucks for conversations that have branches, and encourage terrible quoting / top posting practices.
neogodless 5y ago
A recent (relatively speaking) redesign of Gmail.com left it less usable and much slower than before, and that drove me back to Thunderbird. Even on a high end machine with fiber, it takes a while to load for me. I still go there occasionally to use the superior search, though.
jandem 5y ago
I think part of this is just time to get used to something new? You might notice some improvements too, for instance only after I started using Fastmail I realized the Gmail UI can be pretty slow and heavyweight although I never noticed this before.

I’ve given up on desktop e-mail clients. IMHO there’s currently no UI on the market that beats the Gmail UI.

by cpach 5y ago

I’ve given up on desktop e-mail clients. IMHO there’s currently no UI on the market that beats the Gmail UI.

mdp2021 5y ago

Which of course you improve upon need /I(rony) Edit: after I wrote the above line, I realized that many people use closed source software... Well ok then.

cpach 5y ago
Sorry, I don’t have great skills when it comes to UI design/UI programming.
- mdp2021 5y ago
  Actually I was thinking of new features. For example, I developed a software application complementary to Thunderbird that used its DB to offer organizer functions (e.g. ranking of emails for task priority according to different parameters etc.) I realize that many people take what the market offers.
  - cpach 5y ago
    Features is one thing. But I’m quite sure that the Thunderbird team and I don’t share the same philosophy when it comes to UI.
mkotowski 5y ago
To be fair, even if all the software would be open source, one can not simply have both time and mastery level required to improve the programs one uses.

memling 5y ago

vivaldi, the successor to opera, has a client in beta. it's not as good as the old m2 client in my opinion but it's quite usable. my main gripes: keyboard navigation still isn't on par, the default is to top quote, no highlight to quote, and no encryption support. this latter doesn't bug me much because no one I know uses it. but it's fast with good search capabilities, automatic indexing, contacts, etc.

mugsie 5y ago

mutt and thunderbird are the only 2 clients I have ever found that can make mailing lists usable - gmail threaded view sucks for conversations that have branches, and encourage terrible quoting / top posting practices.

neogodless 5y ago

A recent (relatively speaking) redesign of Gmail.com left it less usable and much slower than before, and that drove me back to Thunderbird. Even on a high end machine with fiber, it takes a while to load for me. I still go there occasionally to use the superior search, though.

jandem 5y ago

I think part of this is just time to get used to something new? You might notice some improvements too, for instance only after I started using Fastmail I realized the Gmail UI can be pretty slow and heavyweight although I never noticed this before.