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Your reasons are mostly individual and to some extent based on a lifestyle that you got used to because working remote wasn't an option. I often hear "i don't h

Your reasons are mostly individual and to some extent based on a lifestyle that you got used to because working remote wasn't an option. I often hear "i don't have a workspace/desk at my home" as a pro-commute argument. But the reason you don't have that desk is because when you moved into your flat, you didn't think of this. But if more and more employers allow to work remotely, people will make different choices on their rentals / housing construction. I personally worked remote numerous times before the pandemic (self-employed contractor but very often onsite) and made arrangements that WFH is a pleasant experience. That also included getting a coworking desk for limited periods of time, because socializing with other people is an important part of your wellbeing. The benefit of a coworking desk is, that if you go out for lunch with your collegues, you don't talk about work during lunch.

nextlevelwizard 5y ago
I don't want to pay more for larger apartment just so I can have dedicated office room and exact same argument goes both ways. I live 20minutes away from my office, that is by choice. I was even considering moving closer (so I could ditch car to a bike or maybe even walk) here I read that every one has 2-3 hour commute, that is on YOU and YOUR poor choices.
- littlecranky67 5y ago
  > I don't want to pay more for larger apartment And thats a perfectly valid choice that you should be allowed to make. If you want to work at an office, you would make sure during the hiring phase that your employer agrees and provides that office to you. If the employer says that you HAVE to work from home, that is a factor that you should consider when accepting the job offer.
  - nextlevelwizard 5y ago
    Yes. Exactly. Just like if remote work is no option people who need it can consider something else. I've always had option to do both, so on days where it is beneficial for me to work from home I can still do that (like if I'm expecting a delivery), but I rather be at the office as per the reasoning in previous comments. There are many companies and many employees. I don't get why so many people are angry that I liked the pre-covid situation.
stackbutterflow 5y ago
Exactly. Our societies/cities were built for in-office workers. The fact that despite that there are many people who still prefer remote work shows how much potential there is for a remote lifestyle. Every house has a bathroom. Now imagine we lived in a world were the norm was to shower at the office. Then suddenly a bunch of people starts to question whether we really should shower at the office or if we could do it at home. There would be tons of people saying 'But I don't have a bathroom, I have to shower in the sink, that's stupid and impractical!'. Well, that's exactly the situation we're in right now. Most people don't have a spare room for working at home in good condition, because buildings and cities weren't built to accommodate WFH.
- littlecranky67 5y ago
  The bathroom example is well chosen, to this day you will find apartment buildings in Berlin with a shared bathroom/toilets for all the apartments in the building (and no individual bathrooms in the aparment). Given the tight housing situation, landlords exploit that fact by asking very high rent for those apartments and still find people willing to rent.

nextlevelwizard 5y ago

I don't want to pay more for larger apartment just so I can have dedicated office room and exact same argument goes both ways. I live 20minutes away from my office, that is by choice. I was even considering moving closer (so I could ditch car to a bike or maybe even walk) here I read that every one has 2-3 hour commute, that is on YOU and YOUR poor choices.

littlecranky67 5y ago
> I don't want to pay more for larger apartment And thats a perfectly valid choice that you should be allowed to make. If you want to work at an office, you would make sure during the hiring phase that your employer agrees and provides that office to you. If the employer says that you HAVE to work from home, that is a factor that you should consider when accepting the job offer.
- nextlevelwizard 5y ago
  Yes. Exactly. Just like if remote work is no option people who need it can consider something else. I've always had option to do both, so on days where it is beneficial for me to work from home I can still do that (like if I'm expecting a delivery), but I rather be at the office as per the reasoning in previous comments. There are many companies and many employees. I don't get why so many people are angry that I liked the pre-covid situation.

stackbutterflow 5y ago

Exactly. Our societies/cities were built for in-office workers. The fact that despite that there are many people who still prefer remote work shows how much potential there is for a remote lifestyle. Every house has a bathroom. Now imagine we lived in a world were the norm was to shower at the office. Then suddenly a bunch of people starts to question whether we really should shower at the office or if we could do it at home. There would be tons of people saying 'But I don't have a bathroom, I have to shower in the sink, that's stupid and impractical!'. Well, that's exactly the situation we're in right now. Most people don't have a spare room for working at home in good condition, because buildings and cities weren't built to accommodate WFH.

littlecranky67 5y ago
The bathroom example is well chosen, to this day you will find apartment buildings in Berlin with a shared bathroom/toilets for all the apartments in the building (and no individual bathrooms in the aparment). Given the tight housing situation, landlords exploit that fact by asking very high rent for those apartments and still find people willing to rent.