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I don’t think this is going to last forever but I am trying to take advantage of this remote Pax Romana as long as possible by cramming my big life events in no

I don’t think this is going to last forever but I am trying to take advantage of this remote Pax Romana as long as possible by cramming my big life events in now while my stress and job time commitments are low. I’m certain that either wages will be depressed for remote workers, the jobs will be sent offshore, or companies will recall everyone but there’s a window to be taken advantage of right now. I’ll certainly point my kid toward a less volatile industry at any rate.

adrianN 5y ago
What are less volatile industries with well paying jobs?
- runawaybottle 5y ago
  Dentist. The Medical people seem to pay their blood up front and have the rest of their life set. Am I wrong about this? We seem to not have to pay anything up front, but at the cost of a life long rat race. If you want to talk flexibility, some of these doctors show up to the office like three times a week in the long run.
  - bluebit 5y ago
    That's the last thing I'd direct my kids towards. To spend a third of your waking life digging in people's dirty mouths because of the stable income is how dreams die.
    - hiddencache 5y ago
      Thanks for making me laugh out loud, appreciated.
  - adrianN 5y ago
    That's a good one, but I wonder whether improved dental hygiene practices will severely reduce dentists' incomes in the next decades. At least in my parent's generation all the expensive procedures were caused by poor nutrition and poor dental hygiene during their youth. There is also the possibility that one of those caries vaccines will finally make it to market.
  - busterarm 5y ago
    There's a large supply of Dentists out there not finding much work and there are way more medical school graduates than there are residencies for them. I know many many medical school graduates who eventually settled for careers in hospital administration because they could not even get a PGY-1 year anywhere. There's not enough supply of the required training. If you went to school in the Caribbean your odds are especially hopeless.
- busterarm 5y ago
  Plumbing. Electrical. HVAC. Roofing. The average age of trade workers is over 50. Carpentry is in extreme demand but the pay hasn't caught up yet -- eventually it will. Demand already far exceeds supply. Edit: I like how I gave a perfectly truthful answer to the question and I'm being downvoted to oblivion. A lot of contempt for tradespeople, I guess. I went to high school with people who became electricians and they were all debt-free millionaires with their own businesses (usually several) by 40.
  - dang 5y ago
    Please don't break the site guidelines by going on about downvotes. Besides not doing any good and making boring reading, it often ends up being uncollected garbage when the original comment gets corrective upvotes, as yours has. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=corrective%20upvote https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor...
  - hiddencache 5y ago
    Demand for HVAC is only going to get bigger on current trends.
  - adrianN 5y ago
    Hm, I think those industries are subject to boom and bust cycles in construction.
    - busterarm 5y ago
      In fact, no. Those are specifically the trades that always have work and don't depend on new construction. "General Construction" is very boom&bust. There are also many specialties available in plumbing and electrical that demand top dollar. The average electrician where I'm at in the US working for themselves is making $80-150 an hour (market depending) without any specialties involved. Related: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xP0egqOivKc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xP0egqOivKc
- deleted 5y ago
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- noisy_boy 5y ago
  Specialization in cooling/coolant related industries. With mad global warming that is just getting started, we are bound to need efficiencies in those industries and those who have the know-how will be in high demand. Also, I'm not aware of any engineer in those industries reading about a new framework every six months and having to do agile stand-ups.
MattGaiser 5y ago
Same. I am planning to jam in a lot of travel and seeing family while we are still in a quasi remote (I am technically back hybrid) state.

adrianN 5y ago

What are less volatile industries with well paying jobs?

runawaybottle 5y ago
Dentist. The Medical people seem to pay their blood up front and have the rest of their life set. Am I wrong about this? We seem to not have to pay anything up front, but at the cost of a life long rat race. If you want to talk flexibility, some of these doctors show up to the office like three times a week in the long run.
- bluebit 5y ago
  That's the last thing I'd direct my kids towards. To spend a third of your waking life digging in people's dirty mouths because of the stable income is how dreams die.
  - hiddencache 5y ago
    Thanks for making me laugh out loud, appreciated.
- adrianN 5y ago
  That's a good one, but I wonder whether improved dental hygiene practices will severely reduce dentists' incomes in the next decades. At least in my parent's generation all the expensive procedures were caused by poor nutrition and poor dental hygiene during their youth. There is also the possibility that one of those caries vaccines will finally make it to market.
- busterarm 5y ago
  There's a large supply of Dentists out there not finding much work and there are way more medical school graduates than there are residencies for them. I know many many medical school graduates who eventually settled for careers in hospital administration because they could not even get a PGY-1 year anywhere. There's not enough supply of the required training. If you went to school in the Caribbean your odds are especially hopeless.
busterarm 5y ago
Plumbing. Electrical. HVAC. Roofing. The average age of trade workers is over 50. Carpentry is in extreme demand but the pay hasn't caught up yet -- eventually it will. Demand already far exceeds supply. Edit: I like how I gave a perfectly truthful answer to the question and I'm being downvoted to oblivion. A lot of contempt for tradespeople, I guess. I went to high school with people who became electricians and they were all debt-free millionaires with their own businesses (usually several) by 40.
- dang 5y ago
  Please don't break the site guidelines by going on about downvotes. Besides not doing any good and making boring reading, it often ends up being uncollected garbage when the original comment gets corrective upvotes, as yours has. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=corrective%20upvote https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor...
- hiddencache 5y ago
  Demand for HVAC is only going to get bigger on current trends.
- adrianN 5y ago
  Hm, I think those industries are subject to boom and bust cycles in construction.
  - busterarm 5y ago
    In fact, no. Those are specifically the trades that always have work and don't depend on new construction. "General Construction" is very boom&bust. There are also many specialties available in plumbing and electrical that demand top dollar. The average electrician where I'm at in the US working for themselves is making $80-150 an hour (market depending) without any specialties involved. Related: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xP0egqOivKc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xP0egqOivKc
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noisy_boy 5y ago
Specialization in cooling/coolant related industries. With mad global warming that is just getting started, we are bound to need efficiencies in those industries and those who have the know-how will be in high demand. Also, I'm not aware of any engineer in those industries reading about a new framework every six months and having to do agile stand-ups.

MattGaiser 5y ago

Same. I am planning to jam in a lot of travel and seeing family while we are still in a quasi remote (I am technically back hybrid) state.