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My oppression. I'm a neurodivergent/queer creator on TikTok. You're trying to speak on my behalf here, so maybe listen to what I'm trying to yell you? And it'

My oppression. I'm a neurodivergent/queer creator on TikTok. You're trying to speak on my behalf here, so maybe listen to what I'm trying to yell you? And it's that yes, TikTok does have plenty of "magic dust" that no other platform has. I know of Matrix/Mastodon, and sorry, but that tech stack is waaaaay too far off the mark. They barely cut it as Slack/Facebook replacements. Google and Facebook also have money. What they don't have is a #1 app, in spite of benefiting from the existing network effect. Did it not occur to you that TikTok must have brought something new to the table to get to that spot? What you're missing is that it's not the creator/follower dynamic you see on Instagram. TikTok enables and encouraged everyone to be a creator in a way that no other platform currently does. If you want to argue about this, for God's/sanity's sake please at least use that app for a week to get some firsthand knowledge if you haven't already done so, and post a video or two.

smoldesu 5y ago
> You're trying to speak on my behalf here, so maybe listen to what I'm trying to yell you? I'm a queer creator, I'm speaking for nobody but myself here. In fact, you're the only one that's trying to get me to change your opinion so far. I frankly don't care how much you love TikTok (since I could find a school bus full of people who share the same opinion any day of the working week), but I do want you to understand why myself (as well as many other queer privacy/security advocates) are recommending that people avoid it like the plague. > TikTok enables and encouraged everyone to be a creator in a way that no other platform currently does. Sure. Their growth is dependent on your devotion to their app, so I don't doubt that they do their best to reduce 'inner circle' friction. > Did it not occur to you that TikTok must have brought something new to the table to get to that spot? To my knowledge, TikTok actually became popular because it did nothing new. Once Musical.ly went away, there needed to be a competitor that could also pay the insane license fees for the popular songs you see all over those apps. Since nobody else had that kind of money, the only viable competitor standing was the CCP, who could afford to piss money away ad-infinitum if it was going towards the oppression of marginalized groups > please at least use that app for a week to get some firsthand knowledge Hell no! I'm not going to use Facebook for a week to confirm that I dislike it, or reinstall MacOS for a week just to re-discover that everything I love broke after Mojave. I'm done arguing about this (just got back from a 3 day power outage), but TikTok doesn't make me any less depressed to see proliferate. I hope you enjoy yourself, regardless.
- dang 5y ago
  Please don't take HN threads further into flamewar. We're trying for the opposite on this site. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
dang 5y ago
Please don't take HN threads further into flamewar. We're trying for the opposite on this site. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

smoldesu 5y ago

> You're trying to speak on my behalf here, so maybe listen to what I'm trying to yell you? I'm a queer creator, I'm speaking for nobody but myself here. In fact, you're the only one that's trying to get me to change your opinion so far. I frankly don't care how much you love TikTok (since I could find a school bus full of people who share the same opinion any day of the working week), but I do want you to understand why myself (as well as many other queer privacy/security advocates) are recommending that people avoid it like the plague. > TikTok enables and encouraged everyone to be a creator in a way that no other platform currently does. Sure. Their growth is dependent on your devotion to their app, so I don't doubt that they do their best to reduce 'inner circle' friction. > Did it not occur to you that TikTok must have brought something new to the table to get to that spot? To my knowledge, TikTok actually became popular because it did nothing new. Once Musical.ly went away, there needed to be a competitor that could also pay the insane license fees for the popular songs you see all over those apps. Since nobody else had that kind of money, the only viable competitor standing was the CCP, who could afford to piss money away ad-infinitum if it was going towards the oppression of marginalized groups > please at least use that app for a week to get some firsthand knowledge Hell no! I'm not going to use Facebook for a week to confirm that I dislike it, or reinstall MacOS for a week just to re-discover that everything I love broke after Mojave. I'm done arguing about this (just got back from a 3 day power outage), but TikTok doesn't make me any less depressed to see proliferate. I hope you enjoy yourself, regardless.

dang 5y ago
Please don't take HN threads further into flamewar. We're trying for the opposite on this site. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

dang 5y ago

Please don't take HN threads further into flamewar. We're trying for the opposite on this site. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html