> Except total votes don't matter much in our presidential system. Trump got the 2nd most and he lost... My point wasn't about "who won", only pointing out the

> Except total votes don't matter much in our presidential system. Trump got the 2nd most and he lost... My point wasn't about "who won", only pointing out the statistics of popularity, considering that an election is basically a popularity contest. The most unpopular president (and vice-president) got more historical more votes than the last most popular president of the past 50-100 years.