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Honestly, I'm frustrated as hell that known bullshit is taken as truth (flat earth? come on!) and I agree with other responses (including yours) that picking on

Honestly, I'm frustrated as hell that known bullshit is taken as truth (flat earth? come on!) and I agree with other responses (including yours) that picking one person or group to be "the authority" clearly is a target for manipulation. But when is enough, enough? There was a time when academics were the source of truth, and yes, sometimes they bone it, but they at least try to correct it. I dunno, I'm ready to go back to that, because this free-for-all of "alternative facts" can't be a good thing, can it?

imwillofficial 5y ago
All it takes is one look at the reproducibility crisis to know that “academics” are just as corrupt, greedy, and politics driven as any politician. Thing is, flat earth is easy to point at and yell “lies!” How about the Trump/Russia collusion? Pushed by powerful interests with an axe to grind, and in the end debunked. But there are many who believe there is more there than meets the eye. Perhaps they are right. Frankly, “disinformation” labels, given by any authority, can and will be manipulated. People calling for that are idiots who can’t understand second order effects of their choices. You act like there is one objective reality, and you know it and others don’t. This is false. “Alternative facts” are differences of opinion on things that 99% of people have no personal knowledge of. Does Hilary Clinton eat babies? Hell, I don’t know. I’d say probably not. But one of her top donors, Ed Buck, did just get charged with tying up homeless black men and injecting them with meth to OD them while He got off. Who knows? Not you, not me. TLDR: None of us have the proper insight to truly discern “misinformation” despite what we think. I may get downvoted to hell, but this is the truth. Our world is shaped by narratives outside of our control.
- SavantIdiot 5y ago
  > Thing is, flat earth is easy to point at and yell “lies!” > You act like there is one objective reality, ... This is false. They got you. Because you just contradicted yourself. Why did you do that? On top of it, you are reciting a certain political party's claims. That's a dead giveaway. WE could start simple. 1. The earth is not flat But you already believe this not to be true, or you do, I can't tell because you're reply is mishmash Bannon-esque nonsense.
  - imwillofficial 5y ago
    I don’t know what “Brannon-esque” means. I feel like you’re butt hurt that I used more right wing examples. Let me shift. “I don’t know if Trump made up the Obama birth certificate scandal for publicity. But Trump has bent the truth like an Olympic gymnast in the past, so maybe.” My point about the flat earth comment, is there are low hanging fruit of obvious lies that are used to push for labels of misinformation on non-objective opinions. I know, for a fact, the earth is not flat. As a submarine radioman, I relied on this fact for everything from navigation to satcomms. I do not know HRC or Trump personally, so I only have my views that were fed to me through the distorted lens of the media, my own experiences, and personal biases. Try reading again for comprehension, and not deceptively editing my quotes next time.

imwillofficial 5y ago

All it takes is one look at the reproducibility crisis to know that “academics” are just as corrupt, greedy, and politics driven as any politician. Thing is, flat earth is easy to point at and yell “lies!” How about the Trump/Russia collusion? Pushed by powerful interests with an axe to grind, and in the end debunked. But there are many who believe there is more there than meets the eye. Perhaps they are right. Frankly, “disinformation” labels, given by any authority, can and will be manipulated. People calling for that are idiots who can’t understand second order effects of their choices. You act like there is one objective reality, and you know it and others don’t. This is false. “Alternative facts” are differences of opinion on things that 99% of people have no personal knowledge of. Does Hilary Clinton eat babies? Hell, I don’t know. I’d say probably not. But one of her top donors, Ed Buck, did just get charged with tying up homeless black men and injecting them with meth to OD them while He got off. Who knows? Not you, not me. TLDR: None of us have the proper insight to truly discern “misinformation” despite what we think. I may get downvoted to hell, but this is the truth. Our world is shaped by narratives outside of our control.

SavantIdiot 5y ago
> Thing is, flat earth is easy to point at and yell “lies!” > You act like there is one objective reality, ... This is false. They got you. Because you just contradicted yourself. Why did you do that? On top of it, you are reciting a certain political party's claims. That's a dead giveaway. WE could start simple. 1. The earth is not flat But you already believe this not to be true, or you do, I can't tell because you're reply is mishmash Bannon-esque nonsense.
- imwillofficial 5y ago
  I don’t know what “Brannon-esque” means. I feel like you’re butt hurt that I used more right wing examples. Let me shift. “I don’t know if Trump made up the Obama birth certificate scandal for publicity. But Trump has bent the truth like an Olympic gymnast in the past, so maybe.” My point about the flat earth comment, is there are low hanging fruit of obvious lies that are used to push for labels of misinformation on non-objective opinions. I know, for a fact, the earth is not flat. As a submarine radioman, I relied on this fact for everything from navigation to satcomms. I do not know HRC or Trump personally, so I only have my views that were fed to me through the distorted lens of the media, my own experiences, and personal biases. Try reading again for comprehension, and not deceptively editing my quotes next time.