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> A person with an associate's degree in biology from a community college has more knowledge of the biological sciences than you, the grandparent poster, and mo

> A person with an associate's degree in biology from a community college has more knowledge of the biological sciences than you, the grandparent poster, and most people on the internet. My Master's degree in Biomedical Science would probably beg to differ with you, but anyway. I don't claim equal KNOWLEDGE to a physician. Let's be clear on that. And given that this is my first post on this article. What's being stated here is not that Paul is necessarily "factually incorrect", it's that he is, to his own benefit, spinning and "refactoring" studies to imply they showed results that they didn't. And given, according to you, that he has this knowledge, he should be aware of concepts like reducing transmissability, or that a study that talks about the ability of a virus to live ON or IN the material of a mask says very little about said mask's ability to mitigate infection from person A to person B or vice versa.

nickthemagicman 5y ago
I have 17 PhDs in Biological Sciences and I get massages from the dean of John's Hopkins Medicine daily and my buttocks are actually made out of science diplomas. The fact that you're supportive of stifling a scientific discussion and supportive.of censorship makes me think youre a fascist and wonder about your credentials. Science is all about questioning. Arrogant assholes that believe they know the absolute truth are often wrong(and fascist). And the fact remains...usage of masks is not settled science by any stretch of the imagination. And for you to claim such and support stifling a conversation about it is disengenuous and makes me think you probably have more of a Masturbation degree in the Biological sciences than a Master's degree.
- FireBeyond 5y ago
  It’s not a scientific discussion to -willfully misrepresent- a study that talks of the ability of a mask to -hold- COVID as “proof that masks don’t work in reducing transmission rates”. And if anyone should know that it’s a fucking MD. So take your personal attacks and fuck off with them.
  - nickthemagicman 5y ago
    Those arent personal attacks I'm truly doubtful of your credentials. A discussion about an inconclusive subject=willful misrepresentation to you? Barry Marshall, Semmelweis, and Galileo would like to have a word. Fascists are not interested in the scientific process of discussion or democracy. Over half the country thinks a policy of wearing a dirty rag on your face until the waiter brings the breadsticks is stupid and unscientific. Over half the country has not had the full vaccine. If it was a vote it would have lost. But fascists aren't interested in democracy or discussion. Fascists are interested in demonizing and suppressing their opponents.
    - FireBeyond 5y ago
      > A discussion about an inconclusive subject=willful misrepresentation to you? No. This is a disingenuous depiction at best. Study: "Do masks hold the virus in the cloth/material and can it survive on that cloth/material". Rand Paul: "Studies (points to the one above) show that masks are unable to prevent the spread of COVID and doesn't stop it". That's not inconclusivity - we don't know "everything" about COVID. That's describing a very limited study as having extremely different conclusions. And what you do learn or should learn in college-level science is that the scope of such studies is specifically limited. Rand Paul, as a physician, should understand that concept. But, needing it to fit a different agenda, he takes the time to make a professionally produced video that repeatedly describes a study that does not say or attempt to say anything close to what he says it does. Again, that's not "open discussion of inconclusive subjects", that's misrepresenting other people's work to meet your political needs.
      - nickthemagicman 5y ago
        >This is a disingenuous depiction at best Numerous studies DO show that masks are unable to prevent the spread of COVID and stop it. Here's a publication stating that cloth Mask usage INCREASED chances of infection. https://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/5/4/e006577 https://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/5/4/e006577 Here's a collection of studies showing the ineffectiveness of face masks. https://swprs.org/face-masks-evidence/ https://swprs.org/face-masks-evidence/ This is still an open discussion but the people like you continue to suppress dissent and demonize the opposition because either your ego is so big or your virtue signaling is so strong, that you can't admin you might be wrong. If Galileo was around right now he would have been deplatformed for trying to tell the world that the Earth revolves around the Sun which was counter to the narrative.

nickthemagicman 5y ago

I have 17 PhDs in Biological Sciences and I get massages from the dean of John's Hopkins Medicine daily and my buttocks are actually made out of science diplomas. The fact that you're supportive of stifling a scientific discussion and supportive.of censorship makes me think youre a fascist and wonder about your credentials. Science is all about questioning. Arrogant assholes that believe they know the absolute truth are often wrong(and fascist). And the fact remains...usage of masks is not settled science by any stretch of the imagination. And for you to claim such and support stifling a conversation about it is disengenuous and makes me think you probably have more of a Masturbation degree in the Biological sciences than a Master's degree.

FireBeyond 5y ago
It’s not a scientific discussion to -willfully misrepresent- a study that talks of the ability of a mask to -hold- COVID as “proof that masks don’t work in reducing transmission rates”. And if anyone should know that it’s a fucking MD. So take your personal attacks and fuck off with them.
- nickthemagicman 5y ago
  Those arent personal attacks I'm truly doubtful of your credentials. A discussion about an inconclusive subject=willful misrepresentation to you? Barry Marshall, Semmelweis, and Galileo would like to have a word. Fascists are not interested in the scientific process of discussion or democracy. Over half the country thinks a policy of wearing a dirty rag on your face until the waiter brings the breadsticks is stupid and unscientific. Over half the country has not had the full vaccine. If it was a vote it would have lost. But fascists aren't interested in democracy or discussion. Fascists are interested in demonizing and suppressing their opponents.
  - FireBeyond 5y ago
    > A discussion about an inconclusive subject=willful misrepresentation to you? No. This is a disingenuous depiction at best. Study: "Do masks hold the virus in the cloth/material and can it survive on that cloth/material". Rand Paul: "Studies (points to the one above) show that masks are unable to prevent the spread of COVID and doesn't stop it". That's not inconclusivity - we don't know "everything" about COVID. That's describing a very limited study as having extremely different conclusions. And what you do learn or should learn in college-level science is that the scope of such studies is specifically limited. Rand Paul, as a physician, should understand that concept. But, needing it to fit a different agenda, he takes the time to make a professionally produced video that repeatedly describes a study that does not say or attempt to say anything close to what he says it does. Again, that's not "open discussion of inconclusive subjects", that's misrepresenting other people's work to meet your political needs.
    - nickthemagicman 5y ago
      >This is a disingenuous depiction at best Numerous studies DO show that masks are unable to prevent the spread of COVID and stop it. Here's a publication stating that cloth Mask usage INCREASED chances of infection. https://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/5/4/e006577 https://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/5/4/e006577 Here's a collection of studies showing the ineffectiveness of face masks. https://swprs.org/face-masks-evidence/ https://swprs.org/face-masks-evidence/ This is still an open discussion but the people like you continue to suppress dissent and demonize the opposition because either your ego is so big or your virtue signaling is so strong, that you can't admin you might be wrong. If Galileo was around right now he would have been deplatformed for trying to tell the world that the Earth revolves around the Sun which was counter to the narrative.