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I agree this feels like cheating. I read the Valorant page and they've basically re-implemented information that is available to you in game generally, but take
by natdempk 5y ago
I agree this feels like cheating. I read the Valorant page and they've basically re-implemented information that is available to you in game generally, but takes skill/timing/awareness to track and made it more obvious and automatically tracked. How is this not just a low-grade cheating program? If the game developers wanted you to have that information in the format Senpai.gg is giving it to you in, they would provide it in that format in the first place rather than using their own audio queues, omitting specific timers, etc.
- whateveracct 5y agoIn-game coaching _is_ considered cheating in FGC tournaments
- natdempk 5y agoYep, for any sort of eSport you can’t have outside help/information outside of designated times if the format allows it, but also this isn’t targeted at eSports.
- brundolf 5y agoBut cheating can happen (and be prosecuted) outside of eSports. The founders should be careful.
- atatatat 5y agoprosecuted, lmao
- woah 5y agoYou could go to jail for a long time. Watch it, buddy
- brundolf 5y agoI'm not exaggerating: https://www.pcgamer.com/south-korea-makes-cheating-in-online-games-an-actual-crime/ https://www.pcgamer.com/south-korea-makes-cheating-in-online... https://kotaku.com/forget-banning-online-gamers-are-in-legal-trouble-for-1595789066 https://kotaku.com/forget-banning-online-gamers-are-in-legal... https://gizmodo.com/chinese-police-bust-alleged-76-million-video-game-chea-1846586125 https://gizmodo.com/chinese-police-bust-alleged-76-million-v...
- IChooseY0u 5y agoThis only applies to Asia. Nobody gets sued for cheating in US/UK/Can. Cheat sellers being the exception.
- hyperhopper 5y agoThis is a thread about people selling a program that might be considered cheating, so I'd say that this is the only case that is relevant.
- jarcane 5y agoBlizzard have sued cheat makers outside Asia before.
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- p1necone 5y agoYeah but it's not allowed in esports because it provides an unfair advantage. It's still unethical and provides an unfair advantage outside of the esports community, there just isn't a judge watching all the players and enforcing it.
- Olcy07 5y agoWe do not target tournaments - any 3.rt part application or a human coach is also not allowed as well.
- whateveracct 5y agoMatchmaking has anti-cheat. This is cheating in an environment that disallows cheating.
- Olcy07 5y agoThanks for sharing your feedback, I agree that it takes time to learn and implement the specific actions in the game - and that is the reason why we developed the gaming coach. Ideally, we want you to learn the game dynamics so you can play better, improve faster and enjoy the game more!
- notJim 5y agoThat doesn't sound like how it would be used though. If I can run your app all the time, and get an edge, why wouldn't I?
- snet0 5y agoThis is akin to saying "if you practice with a cheat so you can see through walls, it'll train you to know where players are likely to be standing". No, it's cheating. It provides an unfair advantage by replacing a skill with a technology. There may be good intentions, but if so they are founded on a total misunderstanding of competition.
- debaserab2 5y agoI don't think it's quite that cut and dry - it appears to only be using data already available to the player. If anything it seems like a training queue to notice the information that's already present instead of passing it over.
- ben-schaaf 5y agoChess engines also only use data already available to the player. That simply has no bearing on whether or not it's cheating.
- alisonkisk 5y agoTransparent, shameless attempts to deflect criticism make people like you less than if you just ignore it, phony exclamation point.