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> "If I take a 10% cut, I'm leaving" is a perfectly reasonable thing to say in such a negotiation If you're going to say this in a negotiation, you have to be

• vsareto 5y ago
  Yeah, ultimatums kinda suck as a negotiation tool for employees. High risk, low reward most of the time. I would replace it with explaining that the pay cut makes you unhappy and/or makes the position less appealing. Make it an assessment of the position and the pay, but don't talk about actions that will come from it (like leaving or job searching). Telling them what you'll do is like obviously telegraphing your next move in a fight.
  • Silhouette 5y ago
    Negotiation is a tricky thing. You don't want to limit your options too early because that might prevent good outcomes. But at some point, if the other guy is being silly and you know you have viable alternative roles as your BATNA, cutting to the chase just saves everyone time and makes sure they understand that something is a deal-breaker.
• lhorie 5y ago
  Of course you do. You could also not raise a fuss in the first place and just move somewhere that isn't 2 hours away from your place of work, like the majority of society does. Or argue that the policy shouldn't apply to you because you're still paying the same state tax and it makes no difference for the company in terms of taxation logistics. Or move teams to one with a more reasonable boss. Or say nothing and do the change-jobs-and-come-back-later-at-L(x+1) thing. Etc. It's not black and white.