7 ms·

In the context of the last trend of nlp a word is defined by its context, if a word is mostly used as a derogatory term in the corpus that the model has been tr

by chudi 5y ago

In the context of the last trend of nlp a word is defined by its context, if a word is mostly used as a derogatory term in the corpus that the model has been trained it will most likely be used as a flag to classify the content as hatespeech

TchoBeer 5y ago
Do people use yiddishisms derogatorily?
- weimerica 5y ago
  Not sure if I’m understanding “yiddishism” correctly here, but internet anti-Semites do mock kvetching all the time.
  - notyourday 5y ago
    Yes, since internet anti-Semites mock kvetching anyone using yiddish words in a comment on a post about yiddish institution is an anti-Semite engaging in hate speech. https://www.yiddishbookcenter.org/collections/oral-histories/excerpts/woh-ex-0002174/yiddishism-and-multifaceted-jewish-identity https://www.yiddishbookcenter.org/collections/oral-histories...
    - deleted 5y ago
      [deleted]
    - weimerica 5y ago
      I'm not sure your point? Absent the original commenter (you) providing context, that makes for reasonable supposition. Automated systems learn from a corpus that includes internet anti-Semites using Yiddishisms in a mocking manner to insult and inflame leads to false-positives on real-world, genuine uses. Similarly, how does one fish out the context and gauge just how appropriate (according to HN, never) a use of "n----r" and all its variants? Consider whether one should tell Joe Schmoe Black American he cannot use the word all to prevent Joe Schmoe White American from having a chance at using it to incite. It's a hard problem with many a false-positive to be had in ways that will befuddle, outrage, and amuse.
- chudi 5y ago
  That's an excellent question, the ml modelers should ask those questioners themselves. There is a comment in this thread that in Spanish languages asking for a black ink cartridge (cartucho de tinta negro in Spanish) for a printer is automatically blocked because the word negro in hate comment is the word that has most signal for the classifier

by chudi 5y ago

TchoBeer 5y ago

Do people use yiddishisms derogatorily?

weimerica 5y ago
Not sure if I’m understanding “yiddishism” correctly here, but internet anti-Semites do mock kvetching all the time.
- notyourday 5y ago
  Yes, since internet anti-Semites mock kvetching anyone using yiddish words in a comment on a post about yiddish institution is an anti-Semite engaging in hate speech. https://www.yiddishbookcenter.org/collections/oral-histories/excerpts/woh-ex-0002174/yiddishism-and-multifaceted-jewish-identity https://www.yiddishbookcenter.org/collections/oral-histories...
  - deleted 5y ago
    [deleted]
  - weimerica 5y ago
    I'm not sure your point? Absent the original commenter (you) providing context, that makes for reasonable supposition. Automated systems learn from a corpus that includes internet anti-Semites using Yiddishisms in a mocking manner to insult and inflame leads to false-positives on real-world, genuine uses. Similarly, how does one fish out the context and gauge just how appropriate (according to HN, never) a use of "n----r" and all its variants? Consider whether one should tell Joe Schmoe Black American he cannot use the word all to prevent Joe Schmoe White American from having a chance at using it to incite. It's a hard problem with many a false-positive to be had in ways that will befuddle, outrage, and amuse.
chudi 5y ago
That's an excellent question, the ml modelers should ask those questioners themselves. There is a comment in this thread that in Spanish languages asking for a black ink cartridge (cartucho de tinta negro in Spanish) for a printer is automatically blocked because the word negro in hate comment is the word that has most signal for the classifier