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Ask HN: What is the HN of Cryptocurrency?
Hackernews is what I would consider a website with solid discussion about technology. However it's extremely skeptical when it comes to cryptocurrency.
I'd like know if there is a similar technically minded community for crypto.
I sometimes read /r/CryptoCurrency but its mostly shilling and asking about prices, so it doesn't really interest me.
- jashmenn 5y agoThe most similar feed I've found is https://feed.rekt.news/day https://feed.rekt.news/day But there isn't a website with comment threads that are high quality. Most of the quality crypto discussions happen in Telegram and Discord. I've realized one of the reasons programmers dislike cryptocurrency is because they value efficiency more than they understand incentive systems. They complain that crypto is inefficient and unoptimized and miss that it's an entirely new incentive system. There's a lot to be skeptical of in the cryptocurrency space, but a community centered around outsized gains through startups should remember that pessimists get to be right and optimists get to be rich.
- sshine 5y agoHN is the HN of cryptocurrency. ;-)
- knuthsat 5y agoYep, nothing gets me salivating as much as the idea of a digital Euro issued by the EU, implemented to be fully private (can't see sender/receiver/transaction count/transaction amounts), bulletproofs [0], combined with view keys that are single-use only when the law needs to intervene. Zero-knowledge proofs used to determine if I paid my taxes without knowing how much I earn and similar exotic behavior. Was quite surprised something like this is possible and I love seeing new crypto tech on HN. 0: https://crypto.stanford.edu/bulletproofs/ https://crypto.stanford.edu/bulletproofs/
- anthony_r 5y ago> Yep, nothing gets me salivating as much as the idea You should try sex one day.
- cody8295 5y agoOr you could use a decentralized and fully private crypto like Monero?
- knuthsat 5y agoWell, I wouldn't mind a centralized and fully private crypto authorized by EU. They can authorize private construction of digital Euro wallets, so that only I know the key, but require me to give them a single-use view key if law demands it.
- yewenjie 5y agoOkay how do I find some good old threads?
- navd 5y agoPretty much Twitter at this point for me. There's too much pessimism on HN when it comes to crypto. I appreciate criticism but Twitter has all the deep thinkers
- bidirectional 5y agoYes. Twitter is honestly much better for most topics, as long as you do a good job of curating who you follow. Practially any deep topic on HN is 90% just people with no expertise making pronouncements or asking for it to be explained to them. It's still worth reading for the occasional insight from the minority, though.
- sorenn111 5y agoAs someone whose asked for some technical papers to be explained a little, I find the expert digests on papers to be one of my favorite things on HN as well as experts who help put things in context
- Zealotux 5y agoI'm new to Twitter, always have been a Luddite when it comes to it but I'm curious to try, any advice on how to find quality accounts to follow?
- oauea 5y agoAh yes those 280 character tweets lend themselves extremely well to deep thought.
- namdnay 5y agoHN is extremely skeptical about everything, because being skeptical about unproven things is a pretty important part of being an engineer
- uberswe 5y agoI always like to look back at the "Show HN: Dropbox" thread (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8863 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8863) and look at the comments like "For a Linux user, you can already build such a system yourself quite trivially by getting an FTP account" :) I think most engineers try to think more critically than the general population.
- ceilingcorner 5y agoMore likely that engineers are more likely to think that they are more critical than the general population and that basic human social facts somehow don’t apply to them.
- ceilingcorner 5y agoSorry but no. While every community that portrays itself as “rational” would like to think that it is unbiased and skeptical toward everything, the same basic human social dynamics still apply. HN is aggressively anti-crypto to the point where I don’t even bother reading comments on related links. It’s become a Pavlovian 2 minutes hate, every. Single. Time.
- monkeyfacebag 5y agoI don't understand. How have you determined the anti crypto sentiment is due to pavlovian hate and not rational disagreement?
- ceilingcorner 5y agoBecause literally every single topic is filled with puerile “Haha, Idiots!” comments immediately. Every single time.
- wayoutthere 5y agoThe profit incentive in crypto created a real incentive to creating and exploiting asymmetric / proprietary information that mirrors existing finance markets. The sad truth is that this causes basically every crypto community to devolve into shilling and pricing discussions. It’s the same thing you see with stocks; anyone willing to give you insight into the market is likely playing the other side. Even technical discussions devolve into arguments about how things will be priced; but this is all because everyone is trying to make their altcoin a meme and become rich. When success equals a huge payday and the risk to shilling is so low, it infiltrates all discussion around a topic.
- brontoski 5y agoThe Daily Ape by Darren Lau (t.me/thedailyape) The Bankless podcast/newsletter These are some solid news sources, if you don't have time to follow everyone on twitter
- waybaily 5y agoIf you want to know more and talk about cryptocurrencies, then bitcointalk is for you as it composes many threads that range from Bitcoin to Altcoins. It also has some topics that are only available in some native languages.
- ceilingcorner 5y agoIf you can deal with the finance-speak and excessive hustlerism, Bowtied Bull on Substack has some interesting commentary. Their old blog (Wall Street Playboys) was equally as interesting as it was offputting.
- tedk-42 5y agoa) I hand my friend a $1 coin/note. b) I socialise the transaction and have everyone try be the first to crack an algorithm that proves I've given my friend a cryptocoin worth $1 There's a community out there claiming one solves a bunch of problems the other had. You tell me...
- glitchc 5y agoStone money is where (a) looks like (b). It has been used successfully in the past, spanning multiple human generations of transactions: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rai_stones https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rai_stones
- oauea 5y agoThey're all scams.
- planb 5y agoSearching for a bubble that reinforces your existing views is probably not the best way to learn more about any given topic.
- mhluongo 5y agoMaybe, but I'm not learning about STARKs or other interesting proof tech on HN, nor am I seeing anything around protocol design or incentive systems... All interesting topics related to cryptocurrency. The bias HN has here is fine if that's what the community wants, but don't pretend there aren't valuable discussions that aren't better had elsewhere.
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- niggerdude 5y agoYou stupid fuck.
- throw149102 5y agoYou might have more success looking for a HN of cryptography, rather than cryptocurrency. That is, if you want an understanding of the mathematics and solid discussions about the technology. If you look for discussions on the economics/finance, well it's no surprise you're only going to find pump-and-dump schemes and scams and shilling and BS.
- freebuju 5y agoYou are on your own here. Every one you'll ever meet on crypto forums is 99% of the time trying to get you to buy whatever shiny butt coin it is that they are holding. There are no exceptions to this rule.
- doomroot 5y agohttps://stacker.news/ https://stacker.news/ Is really fun if you’re interested in primarily bitcoin. You can authenticate yourself with a tiny tiny bitcoin payment over the lightning network.
- k00b 5y agoHey, I'm the founder on SN. Thanks for the mention! You generated some extra traffic today. There actually isn't a cost to using Lightning Login (lnurl-auth). It operates without really touching the Lightning Network, i.e. a channel. It just uses your Lightning wallet's key pair to authenticate you. More on login: through the QR code (or lnurl string), I effectively send your wallet a randomly generated string, a challenge, it signs it using a deterministically derived key pair using my domain and your wallet key pair, then hits an endpoint on my server with the signature which authenticates you.
- k00b 5y agoThe site however does use the Lightning Network to provide Sybil resistance. Upvotes/posts/comments cost 1 sat, ~1/2000 of a dollar. This helps gate the site allowing mostly Bitcoiners in and imports an incentive structure - those more like in person social interactions. Rather than staking your reputation, you're staking Bitcoin. Rather than earning just reputation, you're earning Bitcoin (your earned karma/upvotes is Bitcoin you can withdrawal from SN at anytime).
- bubersson 5y agoStacker News has some solid content and features. Yeah, check it out!
- mckmk 5y agoI'm not 100% clear if you're looking for a pro crypto currency community that has thoughtful technical discussions OR a community that is more focused about being skeptical of crypto currency. I don't know of anywhere good for the former but if it's skepticism - https://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/ is the only place I know of that is focused on criticism and mocking of crypto currency and the related community.
- ArtWomb 5y agoRekt.news. Where else can you find this elite level of forensic analysis combined with wild speculation. Exploits will prove far more interesting historically than funding rounds in these still nascent days of early BTC adoption ;) https://rekt.news/polynetwork-rekt/ https://rekt.news/polynetwork-rekt/
- latchkey 5y agoFeatures wise, https://cryptopanic.com/ https://cryptopanic.com/ is kind of similar.
- ushakov 5y agothis love-hate relationship with all new tech is a meme on HN https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9224 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9224 currently i see it happening with Kubernetes - one league absolutely loves it, another absolutely despises it
- andrewtbham 5y agoFollow the right people on twitter. I would start by following different crypto projects or topics on twitter. And then people that have interesting tweets.. look at their feed and follow. Here is a bitcoin topic I follow https://twitter.com/i/topics/1007360414114435072 https://twitter.com/i/topics/1007360414114435072
- tarokun-io 5y agoI did that for 3 years, then stopped. The signal-to-noise ratio is depressing.
- joaovitor 5y ago# Multireddit I created a multireddit to this and I use it to read information on the topic. https://www.reddit.com/user/jvlg/m/cryptocurrencies/ https://www.reddit.com/user/jvlg/m/cryptocurrencies/ @GGfpc I think that this is a good way of tracking a topic in depth. # Create a youtube channel to track a topic You can create a youtube channel per topic of interest and use it to subscribe to channels related to the topic and even publish some content on it later.
- ir2eis5k 5y agoPerhaps check out 1729.com, Balaji Srinivasan's newsletter/community building effort. The project is pretty optimistic re: using cryptocurrency's properties for positive goals.
- jeanniesarah 5y agorekt.news
- tarokun-io 5y agoPersonally I'd recommend to stay off of Twitter. The signal-to-noise ratio is depressing, even if you follow "the right people". I've found more value in newsletters: - https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-d... - https://ethhub.substack.com/ https://ethhub.substack.com/ - https://weekinethereum.substack.com/ https://weekinethereum.substack.com/
- deevolution 5y agoHN is full of disgruntled haters. There are lots of DAOs that discuss crypto. I recently joined the FWB DAO https://www.fwb.help/ https://www.fwb.help/ which has a pretty vibrant community. The one caveat is that you need to prove you own 75 FWB tokens to gain access (subject to change based on a seasonal community vote). The benefit is that it keeps spammers out. Generally the discussions and community members have been pretty high quality.
- emodendroket 5y agoI would consider HN a pretty pro-crypto community.
- meremortals 5y agoPossibly https://www.realvision.com/ https://www.realvision.com/ but more likely a Matrix or Discord channel I don't get know about
- k00b 5y agoYou can join us on https://stacker.news https://stacker.news if you're into Bitcoin. I'm the maker. It appears even this question was heavily downvoted based on its rank and timing relative to older, fewer upvoted Ask posts. Looking forward to seeing you there!
- geraldmd 5y agovery cool!
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