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As I said here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28140897 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28140897 I feel articles like these are our personal propaga

As I said here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28140897 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28140897 I feel articles like these are our personal propaganda. "Lets blame someone else, while our own war criminals roam free". Tony Blair, Bush, Clinton ... they went into several wars without any approval of UN, made huge destruction, civilian deaths and suffering... and nothing, they live happily ever after ...

enkid 5y ago
You are not disagreeing with me. You are just bringing up issues that Western countries have had and saying "don't report about Russian crimes, report about this.". But those things have been reported on and discussed in Western culture since those things happened many times. So no, BBC, a news service, shouldn't rehash a thirty year old argument (Clinton? Really?) when instead of talking about Russian war crimes.
- NiceWayToDoIT 5y ago
  No, I am not disagreeing, I am just fed up with all propaganda, soon I will read Russia is responsible for global warming and Moon rotation. Few years ago we had The Panama Papers, Wiki leaks... huge number of document disclosing, war crimes, offshore banks, money laundering... except Iceland has any country done anything about those individuals? Instead they hunted whistle blowers like a wild animals. So, when someone asked me what are the world wide political system I have one answer - organised mafia aristocracies, everything else is just illusion and PR. Clinton - NATO bombing of Yugoslavia
  - enkid 5y ago
    All your doing is derailing the conversation. Western reaction to whistleblowers has literally nothing to do with Russian war crimes. The bombing of Yugoslavia 25+ years ago has nothing to do with Russian war crimes. Why can't you just accept that this is a valid thing to report on? No is saying the news can't report on that other stuff, but this is clearly worth reporting on, so stop trying to distract or get us to ignore it.
    - NiceWayToDoIT 5y ago
      Issue here is that you have narrow minded thinking, you are focused to one thing and you cannot attach anything that has any other association, and as such it is easy to manipulate you, and everyone else whom governments needs to approve more military spending for future wars in some foreign country for the sake of oil and gold (e.g protecting our economic interests) and with excuse of protecting democracy and giving better life to those people.
    - mr_overalls 5y ago
      Just FYI, you are most likely arguing with a Russian bot or paid propagandist.

enkid 5y ago

You are not disagreeing with me. You are just bringing up issues that Western countries have had and saying "don't report about Russian crimes, report about this.". But those things have been reported on and discussed in Western culture since those things happened many times. So no, BBC, a news service, shouldn't rehash a thirty year old argument (Clinton? Really?) when instead of talking about Russian war crimes.

NiceWayToDoIT 5y ago
No, I am not disagreeing, I am just fed up with all propaganda, soon I will read Russia is responsible for global warming and Moon rotation. Few years ago we had The Panama Papers, Wiki leaks... huge number of document disclosing, war crimes, offshore banks, money laundering... except Iceland has any country done anything about those individuals? Instead they hunted whistle blowers like a wild animals. So, when someone asked me what are the world wide political system I have one answer - organised mafia aristocracies, everything else is just illusion and PR. Clinton - NATO bombing of Yugoslavia
- enkid 5y ago
  All your doing is derailing the conversation. Western reaction to whistleblowers has literally nothing to do with Russian war crimes. The bombing of Yugoslavia 25+ years ago has nothing to do with Russian war crimes. Why can't you just accept that this is a valid thing to report on? No is saying the news can't report on that other stuff, but this is clearly worth reporting on, so stop trying to distract or get us to ignore it.
  - NiceWayToDoIT 5y ago
    Issue here is that you have narrow minded thinking, you are focused to one thing and you cannot attach anything that has any other association, and as such it is easy to manipulate you, and everyone else whom governments needs to approve more military spending for future wars in some foreign country for the sake of oil and gold (e.g protecting our economic interests) and with excuse of protecting democracy and giving better life to those people.
  - mr_overalls 5y ago
    Just FYI, you are most likely arguing with a Russian bot or paid propagandist.