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Can you flesh this out more? I'm not asking for academic rigour, but at the moment it's hard to engage because your critique is so sweeping and unspecific.

thisone22 5y ago
It's just bog standard Australian cultural cringe. I've spent a good chunk of my adulthood living in various countries in Europe, and Australia. Europhilic nonsense such as in the GP betray their almost total lack of understanding as to the actual state of affairs in European countries. Corruption is everywhere. Corporate interests influence policy.. everywhere. Moronic government decisions abound.. literally everywhere. Nasty media companies... everywhere. Imperfect educational systems ... everywhere. The racism in Western Europe is _significantly_ worse, I can tell you that from personal experience. in Europe, you can be the wrong kind of white in your OWN country - just talk to some Catalans or Basques about what that's like... ...but of course your country kid from Tamworth will have no idea of any of that while they go off clubbing in Berlin or living their French food fantasy in Lyon because 1 - They don't speak the language, which means 2 - They can't understand the news and also means 3 - They can't talk to actual locals about what real life is like there. Yet EuRopE is So mUCh bEttEr. (Just wait until they start interacting with the German, French or Spanish bureaucracies and see what kind of tune they're singing after 2 years.. ) And even worse, they think the English speaking populace of any country is a reflection of what the rest of that country is like. The naivete is astounding. Literally the worst kind of Australian that exists.
- MisterTea 5y ago
  As an American I have heard many people romanticize Europe and compared it favorably to the USA in terms of politics, social progression, etc. Rose colored glasses, grass is always greener and all that.
  - thisone22 5y ago
    Yep, exactly like this.
  - kwere 5y ago
    > politics, social progression, etc Yes, European Countries, except some ex-soviet countries are better than Usa (excluded California or New York probably) on social matters aside maybe personal opportunities due to a Left-Conservatory enviroments
- L_226 5y ago
  I live in Germany, work at a German company, Ich kann auch Deutsche sprechen und Ich bin auch einer Deutscheburger. Aber ja, danke für deine falsche Meinung.
- systemvoltage 5y ago
  As an American, we always look up to Europe for many but not all things. There are bits and pieces that I like about Asian countries as well. For instance, I would love USA to have a larger repair and hacker culture like Shenzhen. A ritualistic and respectful culture as Japan. A more socially cohesive culture as India. I also think USA has some aspects that I don’t want to give up - philosophically, the constitutional rights and materialistically, the cost of living, job market, access to natural beauty and availability of land.
- kwere 5y ago
  > in Europe, you can be the wrong kind of white in your OWN country You know Racism is about ethnicity (+culture) not the colour of your skin, right?

thisone22 5y ago

It's just bog standard Australian cultural cringe. I've spent a good chunk of my adulthood living in various countries in Europe, and Australia. Europhilic nonsense such as in the GP betray their almost total lack of understanding as to the actual state of affairs in European countries. Corruption is everywhere. Corporate interests influence policy.. everywhere. Moronic government decisions abound.. literally everywhere. Nasty media companies... everywhere. Imperfect educational systems ... everywhere. The racism in Western Europe is _significantly_ worse, I can tell you that from personal experience. in Europe, you can be the wrong kind of white in your OWN country - just talk to some Catalans or Basques about what that's like... ...but of course your country kid from Tamworth will have no idea of any of that while they go off clubbing in Berlin or living their French food fantasy in Lyon because 1 - They don't speak the language, which means 2 - They can't understand the news and also means 3 - They can't talk to actual locals about what real life is like there. Yet EuRopE is So mUCh bEttEr. (Just wait until they start interacting with the German, French or Spanish bureaucracies and see what kind of tune they're singing after 2 years.. ) And even worse, they think the English speaking populace of any country is a reflection of what the rest of that country is like. The naivete is astounding. Literally the worst kind of Australian that exists.

MisterTea 5y ago
As an American I have heard many people romanticize Europe and compared it favorably to the USA in terms of politics, social progression, etc. Rose colored glasses, grass is always greener and all that.
- thisone22 5y ago
  Yep, exactly like this.
- kwere 5y ago
  > politics, social progression, etc Yes, European Countries, except some ex-soviet countries are better than Usa (excluded California or New York probably) on social matters aside maybe personal opportunities due to a Left-Conservatory enviroments
L_226 5y ago
I live in Germany, work at a German company, Ich kann auch Deutsche sprechen und Ich bin auch einer Deutscheburger. Aber ja, danke für deine falsche Meinung.
systemvoltage 5y ago
As an American, we always look up to Europe for many but not all things. There are bits and pieces that I like about Asian countries as well. For instance, I would love USA to have a larger repair and hacker culture like Shenzhen. A ritualistic and respectful culture as Japan. A more socially cohesive culture as India. I also think USA has some aspects that I don’t want to give up - philosophically, the constitutional rights and materialistically, the cost of living, job market, access to natural beauty and availability of land.
kwere 5y ago
> in Europe, you can be the wrong kind of white in your OWN country You know Racism is about ethnicity (+culture) not the colour of your skin, right?