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> "We have been naive" and "we didn't see it coming" For context it should be noted that these two famous quotes by the prime minister and staff were not in th

> "We have been naive" and "we didn't see it coming" For context it should be noted that these two famous quotes by the prime minister and staff were not in the context of software or business, but regarding violent crime and the demographic shift away from natives ethnic homogeneity

imartin2k 5y ago
It was also used during the pandemic.
zibzab 5y ago
That was said during the pandemic. I feel you are pushing a narrative here.
- jeofken 5y ago
  That I had missed - but that is also not the topic of IT or business, so the point stands > I feel you are pushing a narrative here. Your feelings are beyond my control
  - guerrilla 5y ago
    > Your feelings are beyond my control Clever, yet generally false. How we behave and what we say impacts other people's feelings in general.
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- ynfnehf 5y ago
  Those specific quotes (or rather direct translations of quotes) were said in regards to bad integration policy (by Stefan Löfven in 2015 and 2019). There has probably been said things with similar sentiment in regards to the pandemic. But not those two specific ones. Even though I agree OP is pushing a narrative a bit too much, your correction is also wrong. Since these were not said during the pandemic.
  - jeofken 5y ago
    My comment cleared up that the quotes were out of context, and in pretty dry words explained in what context they were said. If simply stating the context is pushing a narrative, we can’t converse.
    - kruxigt 5y ago
      Libtards often have a problem with the objective reality of things. No surprise here.
- advanced-DnD 5y ago
  It was not, I feel you are pushing another narrative here.
CRConrad 5y ago
> > "We have been naive" and "we didn't see it coming" > For context it should be noted that these two famous quotes by the prime minister and staff were not in the context of software or business, but regarding violent crime and the demographic shift away from natives ethnic homogeneity It's been used (and roundly criticised from the right) mainly in those contexts recently, but also for pretty much anything they've screwed up for over a decade now. IMO the right (both the "accepted" traditional parties and the newer populist ones) is basically right in asking, "If you can't see fricking anything coming, are you really qualified to run the country?" It may work as an excuse the first few times, but it wears out pretty quickly; AFAICS the point where it shows not how hugely unpredictable the consequences of their actions are, but just how bad at predicting / willing to ignore them they are has long since been passed.

imartin2k 5y ago

It was also used during the pandemic.

zibzab 5y ago

That was said during the pandemic. I feel you are pushing a narrative here.

jeofken 5y ago
That I had missed - but that is also not the topic of IT or business, so the point stands > I feel you are pushing a narrative here. Your feelings are beyond my control
- guerrilla 5y ago
  > Your feelings are beyond my control Clever, yet generally false. How we behave and what we say impacts other people's feelings in general.
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ynfnehf 5y ago
Those specific quotes (or rather direct translations of quotes) were said in regards to bad integration policy (by Stefan Löfven in 2015 and 2019). There has probably been said things with similar sentiment in regards to the pandemic. But not those two specific ones. Even though I agree OP is pushing a narrative a bit too much, your correction is also wrong. Since these were not said during the pandemic.
- jeofken 5y ago
  My comment cleared up that the quotes were out of context, and in pretty dry words explained in what context they were said. If simply stating the context is pushing a narrative, we can’t converse.
  - kruxigt 5y ago
    Libtards often have a problem with the objective reality of things. No surprise here.
advanced-DnD 5y ago
It was not, I feel you are pushing another narrative here.

CRConrad 5y ago

> > "We have been naive" and "we didn't see it coming" > For context it should be noted that these two famous quotes by the prime minister and staff were not in the context of software or business, but regarding violent crime and the demographic shift away from natives ethnic homogeneity It's been used (and roundly criticised from the right) mainly in those contexts recently, but also for pretty much anything they've screwed up for over a decade now. IMO the right (both the "accepted" traditional parties and the newer populist ones) is basically right in asking, "If you can't see fricking anything coming, are you really qualified to run the country?" It may work as an excuse the first few times, but it wears out pretty quickly; AFAICS the point where it shows not how hugely unpredictable the consequences of their actions are, but just how bad at predicting / willing to ignore them they are has long since been passed.