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I am from Europe. But I don't think sweden is the new silicon valley. Maybe from the perspective of extreme costs. Berlin, Amsterdam, Dublin and even London are

I am from Europe. But I don't think sweden is the new silicon valley. Maybe from the perspective of extreme costs. Berlin, Amsterdam, Dublin and even London are much bigger in terms of startups, scaleups. The world is more than Klarna and Spotify.

cpach 5y ago
Of course, there are lots of cities who wants to be the Silicon Valley of Europe. I wonder if there are any objective facts one could compare in order to make the discussion a little more fact-based. Amount of invested venture capital per capita…? Or maybe there are better measures.
- cucumb3rrelish 5y ago
  https://content.sifted.eu/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/11112243/1-1.png https://content.sifted.eu/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/1111224... The UK and Germany appear to have the most active venture capital out of all European countries, significantly more so than Sweden.
  - cpach 5y ago
    Would love to some amounts invested as well. (Can’t dig for that now, maybe later…)
m1111 5y ago
> even London Why _even_? Fairly sure London has more startups than the previous 3 mentioned cities combined.
- CRConrad 5y ago
  > Why _even_? Fairly sure London has more startups than the previous 3 mentioned cities combined. Leaving out Germany for the moment, Britain (actually even England alone, I think) also has a much larger population than Sweden, the Netherlands and Ireland combined, so of course it may have more startups total. As for Berlin, I'm guessing "talent" and opportunities are more dispersed in Germany than in Britain: Does it really have much of a "Silicon Valley of <<X>>" besides London? As I understand it, Germany has Hamburg, Munich, perhaps Frankfurt and I don't know what more (the greater Stuttgart region, from at least CureVac in Tübingen to SAP in Walldorf; maybe Mainz-Darmstadt, with BionTech and Software AG?). Also, Britain has screwed itself over royally with Brexit, which makes it hugely less attractive and competitive.

cpach 5y ago

Of course, there are lots of cities who wants to be the Silicon Valley of Europe. I wonder if there are any objective facts one could compare in order to make the discussion a little more fact-based. Amount of invested venture capital per capita…? Or maybe there are better measures.

cucumb3rrelish 5y ago
https://content.sifted.eu/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/11112243/1-1.png https://content.sifted.eu/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/1111224... The UK and Germany appear to have the most active venture capital out of all European countries, significantly more so than Sweden.
- cpach 5y ago
  Would love to some amounts invested as well. (Can’t dig for that now, maybe later…)

m1111 5y ago

> even London Why _even_? Fairly sure London has more startups than the previous 3 mentioned cities combined.

CRConrad 5y ago
> Why _even_? Fairly sure London has more startups than the previous 3 mentioned cities combined. Leaving out Germany for the moment, Britain (actually even England alone, I think) also has a much larger population than Sweden, the Netherlands and Ireland combined, so of course it may have more startups total. As for Berlin, I'm guessing "talent" and opportunities are more dispersed in Germany than in Britain: Does it really have much of a "Silicon Valley of <<X>>" besides London? As I understand it, Germany has Hamburg, Munich, perhaps Frankfurt and I don't know what more (the greater Stuttgart region, from at least CureVac in Tübingen to SAP in Walldorf; maybe Mainz-Darmstadt, with BionTech and Software AG?). Also, Britain has screwed itself over royally with Brexit, which makes it hugely less attractive and competitive.