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A proper state would make the vaccine mandatory instead of these lame coercion attempts. With delta, you will not reach anything close to herd immunity unless
by TurboHaskal 5y ago
A proper state would make the vaccine mandatory instead of these lame coercion attempts.
With delta, you will not reach anything close to herd immunity unless you vaccine about >=90% of the population. There is limited data on the relative safety of these new vaccines on <12 year olds.
- rPlayer6554 5y agoMandatory, or what? You go to prison?
- croes 5y agoNo shirt, no service
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- rPlayer6554 5y agoMy question is no service where?
- TurboHaskal 5y agoYou get sent to the gulag where they make you code CRUD apps with JavaScript and ever changing frameworks.
- southerntofu 5y agoI assume you also have to pass a CAPTCHA to open your text editor every morning?
- rPlayer6554 5y agoAlso every time you open the editor it changes a single random number somewhere in your project.
- martin_a 5y agoI think if children are not vaccinated against measles, they're not allowed to go to a public school. That's one example of existing mandatory vaccinations and it's for the greater good of everybody. Nobody cares about that.
- rPlayer6554 5y agoMy question is not "is it possible for the government to make a law to prevent people from X if they don't do Y." I don't know if vaccinating every kid would have the disired effect the parent is looking for. I think the parent's suggestion to "just force people to get it" is incredibly simplistic and unfeasible considering the current laws and structure of government.
- ahartmetz 5y agoSome politician promised that vaccination will not be mandatory over a year ago (IIRC), and this way they can technically keep their word...
- croes 5y agoAt that time the vaccine also prevented transmission, changed circumstances require changed solutions.
- makomk 5y agoWith delta, it probably isn't possible to get herd immunity by vaccinating even 100% of the population (not that they're eligible anyway) - it just isn't effective enough at preventing transmission. The maths on this is actually pretty easy: the delta variant has an R0 of somewhere about 8, meaning each person infects around 8 others, latest numbers from the UK suggest vaccinated people are about a third as likely to have it as unvaccinated but are probably just as infectious, vaccinate everyone and each infected person will still spread it to enough others that there'll be strong exponential growth. There's also going to be diminishing returns on vaccinating the last few percent of the population. At some point, the vaccinated outnumber the unvaccinated so much that the large majority of cases, hospitalisations, deaths, and spreading of the virus is happening amongst the vaccinated. Then there's all the people who aren't eligible for vaccination at all, of course...