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>the users like the parent comment are once again the prime product addicted under a para-social relationship with other addicted influencers That's quite a le

>the users like the parent comment are once again the prime product addicted under a para-social relationship with other addicted influencers That's quite a leap from what I said, not to mention a personal attack. Comment [0] doesn't make any factual claims about TikTok (please, go and read it). Comment [1] is outdated, as the policy they has changed since then. "That wall was black two years ago" is a factual claim, but the wall has been repainted since, and anyone with a pair of eyes can go take a look. Also, as a member of the several demographics mentioned in that comment - and, ostensibly, oppressed by TikTok -, me saying that my experience was the opposite and extremely valuable should make you reconsider your words. Have you been affected by TikTok's policy towards vulnerable people? If not, please do not speak on our behalf.

rvz 5y ago
> That's quite a leap from what I said, not to mention a personal attack. Isn't this what you just said? This is you: > TikTok's algorithm has introduced me to my (now) favorite neurodivergent and LGBTQ+ content makers. Some of them have hundreds of thousands of followers, some a few hundred. > All the people I interact with there get me. I've never felt this anywhere else. From [0] 'Viewers or listeners come to consider media personalities as friends, despite having no or limited interactions with them.' [0] Do they know you personally as if they are your close friends? If not, they will just see you essentially as a fan in a para-social relationship on a platform like TikTok. That is not a personal attack, that is the definition of what you are describing. > Comment [0] doesn't make any factual claims about TikTok (please, go and read it). So you are saying that there weren't any leaks happening about TikTok then, which suggests that they can suppress any content they want to or shadow-ban tags? So you trust them that they won't do it again then, since you think in your opinion that 'TikTok is the best thing to have happened to the Internet.' 10 years ago, another social network had the same accolade. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasocial_interaction https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasocial_interaction
- romwell 5y ago
  My friend, I am not here to dispel your misconceptions, but I'll just note that you find HN a worthwhile community to participate in due to level of discourse here, then the same "para-social addict" label is applicable to you by your logic.
  - rvz 5y ago
    You can't 'follow' anyone on this site and anyone can simply have a random discussion here with anybody. The logic you tried to apply here doesn't work and isn't the same thing unlike what is going on in 'TikTok'. As for my question(s) you are yet to answer, I'll make the first one more clearer for you: >> Do they (the people you are following on TikTok) know you personally as if they are your close friends? >> So you are saying that there weren't any leaks happening about TikTok then, which suggests that they can suppress any content they want to or shadow-ban tags? So you trust them that they won't do it again then, since you think in your opinion that 'TikTok is the best thing to have happened to the Internet.'?
    - romwell 5y ago
      Notice how I am discussing things that you said, and you are discussing me, while also making claims about me. What I value on TikTok is lack of unprovoked hostility of this kind in the communities that I have discovered there. Enjoy your day, my friend, and try to find another person to argue about.
      - rvz 5y ago
        Nope. I already pointed out your flawed logic earlier and as for the 'claims', you already admitted it right here though? Your comment [0] completely fits the definition of a para-social relationship! [1][2] You won't answer my first question because you know that you are engaging in a para-social relationship with the people you are following on TikTok. Not even remotely a 'personal attack' a simple 'fact' that you already admitted earlier. Given that you continue to avoid the first question, I can assume that the creators you follow don't know you and to them, you are simply a 'fan' or 'follower' of them in a para-social relationship as described in. [1] Now for my other questions that you still haven't answered: >> So you are saying that there weren't any leaks happening about TikTok then, which suggests that they can suppress any content they want to or shadow-ban tags? So you trust them that they won't do it again then, since you think in your opinion that 'TikTok is the best thing to have happened to the Internet.'? [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28135484 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28135484 [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasocial_interaction https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasocial_interaction [2] https://www.oxfordreference.com/view/10.1093/oi/authority.20110803100305809 https://www.oxfordreference.com/view/10.1093/oi/authority.20...

rvz 5y ago

> That's quite a leap from what I said, not to mention a personal attack. Isn't this what you just said? This is you: > TikTok's algorithm has introduced me to my (now) favorite neurodivergent and LGBTQ+ content makers. Some of them have hundreds of thousands of followers, some a few hundred. > All the people I interact with there get me. I've never felt this anywhere else. From [0] 'Viewers or listeners come to consider media personalities as friends, despite having no or limited interactions with them.' [0] Do they know you personally as if they are your close friends? If not, they will just see you essentially as a fan in a para-social relationship on a platform like TikTok. That is not a personal attack, that is the definition of what you are describing. > Comment [0] doesn't make any factual claims about TikTok (please, go and read it). So you are saying that there weren't any leaks happening about TikTok then, which suggests that they can suppress any content they want to or shadow-ban tags? So you trust them that they won't do it again then, since you think in your opinion that 'TikTok is the best thing to have happened to the Internet.' 10 years ago, another social network had the same accolade. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasocial_interaction https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasocial_interaction

romwell 5y ago
My friend, I am not here to dispel your misconceptions, but I'll just note that you find HN a worthwhile community to participate in due to level of discourse here, then the same "para-social addict" label is applicable to you by your logic.
- rvz 5y ago
  You can't 'follow' anyone on this site and anyone can simply have a random discussion here with anybody. The logic you tried to apply here doesn't work and isn't the same thing unlike what is going on in 'TikTok'. As for my question(s) you are yet to answer, I'll make the first one more clearer for you: >> Do they (the people you are following on TikTok) know you personally as if they are your close friends? >> So you are saying that there weren't any leaks happening about TikTok then, which suggests that they can suppress any content they want to or shadow-ban tags? So you trust them that they won't do it again then, since you think in your opinion that 'TikTok is the best thing to have happened to the Internet.'?
  - romwell 5y ago
    Notice how I am discussing things that you said, and you are discussing me, while also making claims about me. What I value on TikTok is lack of unprovoked hostility of this kind in the communities that I have discovered there. Enjoy your day, my friend, and try to find another person to argue about.
    - rvz 5y ago
      Nope. I already pointed out your flawed logic earlier and as for the 'claims', you already admitted it right here though? Your comment [0] completely fits the definition of a para-social relationship! [1][2] You won't answer my first question because you know that you are engaging in a para-social relationship with the people you are following on TikTok. Not even remotely a 'personal attack' a simple 'fact' that you already admitted earlier. Given that you continue to avoid the first question, I can assume that the creators you follow don't know you and to them, you are simply a 'fan' or 'follower' of them in a para-social relationship as described in. [1] Now for my other questions that you still haven't answered: >> So you are saying that there weren't any leaks happening about TikTok then, which suggests that they can suppress any content they want to or shadow-ban tags? So you trust them that they won't do it again then, since you think in your opinion that 'TikTok is the best thing to have happened to the Internet.'? [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28135484 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28135484 [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasocial_interaction https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasocial_interaction [2] https://www.oxfordreference.com/view/10.1093/oi/authority.20110803100305809 https://www.oxfordreference.com/view/10.1093/oi/authority.20...