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>That's making some very generous assumptions. Disagree. In my current country of living, I'm not even sure how I'd properly expose the router I use to the pub
by csydas 5y ago
>That's making some very generous assumptions.
Disagree. In my current country of living, I'm not even sure how I'd properly expose the router I use to the public internet since I sit behind the ISP's NAT-ing, and even when I lived in the US, I am not confident I could tell you how to publicly expose the modem provided by Comcast for non-local access, much less how someone without any tech experience might do this.
If this was a prevalent problem because of default settings, I'd expect far more than 7800 results; I am not willing to concede every instance is intentional, but 7800 out of the billions of routing devices in the world showing up on this search enforces my understanding that these 7800 entries are special in some way.
>I doubt there's MFA or even rate limiting.
MFA is not common at all on consumer routers, which at least quite a few on the first page result are, same with rate limiting.
Even for Enterprise grade gear, the threat isn't the user-defined password, it's the manufacturer backdoors, which we've seen many of in the last few years. Rate limiting doesn't do much if you have a fair chance that you've got a back door.
What likely __does__ help is that as far as I know, "Enable Web Access from WAN" is by default *disabled* on most consumer routers (and enterprise? that I'm not sure of), so I think that this leads credence to the devices on the Google results being exposed intentionally to some degree. (The owners' knowledge level not withstanding, this is a fairly out of the way setting, at least on my Asus router)
- Alupis 5y ago> but 7800 out of the billions of routing devices in the world showing Click "Next Page" - estimated results turns into 21 results in total... of which a bunch are dead links, a bunch are HN aggregators... leaving just a small handful of actual devices on the internet.
- jfrunyon 5y ago> I am not confident I could tell you how to publicly expose the modem provided by Comcast for non-local access You likely couldn't. That setting is usually gated behind some sort of "technician" or "mso" account (or not present, or only accessible from the devices telnet/ssh interface). Of course, it's probably not difficult to guess Comcast's password; past experience with other companies suggests you try things like "comcast" or "C0mc4s7". (Not even joking, Suddenlink and Spectrum/TWC.) > much less how someone without any tech experience might do this. Easy. It's a button that their kid clicked while playing around. > MFA is not common at all on consumer routers, which at least quite a few on the first page result are, same with rate limiting. Are you trying to say that's a positive for exposing it on the internet...?